Fat girl rage post

[Gwenhwyfar227]

I can only read so many, “…I’ve never been obese, in fact I’m a fitness expert, but you fatties need to be working on lifestyle changes, not using meds as a crutch and have a plan for when you get off,” posts before I have to off gas.

If you have never been obese or above, if you’ve never had food shouting to you from two rooms away (EATMEEATMEEATME), if you’ve never thought about your next meal while eating one, if you’ve never done all the things and lost and found the same 50-100lbs innumerable times?

We are not the same. You should listen, learn, and stay in your lane. We have been tormented by people like you for our supposed laziness and moral failing for as long as we can remember.

You think we’ve never tried calorie deficits and working out? You think we haven’t tried every single program under the sun? We have and we’ve been damned successful at it. Then the noise wins.

So now there’s something that offers help and hope in a way we’ve never experienced. The first time I realized the f-ing siren song of everything in my kitchen, every restaurant, wasn’t blaring in my ears? I cried. I couldn’t believe THIS was how others actually lived, that they moved through their days and nights without that pulling so much focus.

As Kendrick Lamar said, “They not like us, they not like us, they not like us.” Remember that, you folks that have never been here, you are not like us, so stop comparing us to you.

This isn’t everyone’s story about why they’re on glp-1s, but it’s a lot of us.

Omg I love you...can we be besties?

It's being proven scientifically BECAUSE of these meds that we are NOT the same..

Those of us that have had this noise all are lives are completely different then those that gain a few pounds because they have not been working out like usual or from older age.

They are proving we are wired differently and trying to find out why.

Will they...no...there's no money in that...but it's being proven.

 

[Gwenhwyfar227]

F all those people! Karma will catch up to them one day!

Not to turn this into an AA meeting, but...

One of the many things I learned in AA... It's not easy, and took me a while to adopt, but it's essential to my well being. DONT LET ANYONE LIVE IN MY HEAD, RENT FREE!

That is to say... It's none of my damned business what others think or say about me. It only matters what I think of myself. The only thing I can control is what I do next.

But mostly, screw all those intercoursing anuses.

Don't give them a second thought. Life is too short to spend a minute worrying about what someone thinks. If you let them in, they win! Don't let them in! Don't let them live in your head, rent free!

Disclaimer:

Results may vary. Side effects include hysteria, assault and battery, murder-suicide, and spontaneous combustion. Always consult a friend before pulling the trigger!

I seriously have been working on this...I've been self conscious my whole life because of my weight ( lots of trauma there...let's nor touch that one..hahaha)

But more importantly...I wish someone had taught me, like I taught my girls, your only as worthy as you see yourself...who gives 2 flying F*s what anyone else thinks. I hammered into their heads what absolutely amazing creatures they are and let Noone stay longer then a second in their lives if they don't think so also.

* Going on a koombaya soapbox...scroll on now..lol

If only ..only...we could all realize and retain what a miracle it is that we are here..and what a miracle we are in itself. .the uniqueness is beauty...

Ok koombaya over..lol

 

[Broken Chef]

I seriously have been working on this...I've been self conscious my whole life because of my weight ( lots of trauma there...let's nor touch that one..hahaha)

But more importantly...I wish someone had taught me, like I taught my girls, your only as worthy as you see yourself...who gives 2 flying F*s what anyone else thinks. I hammered into their heads what absolutely amazing creatures they are and let Noone stay longer then a second in their lives if they don't think so also.

* Going on a koombaya soapbox...scroll on now..lol

If only ..only...we could all realize and retain what a miracle it is that we are here..and what a miracle we are in itself. .the uniqueness is beauty...

Ok koombaya over..lol

It's not easy, and I'm far from practicing this 100%, but it's something to strive for. I've found it's better to block/ignore rather than respond. I tend to get over it quicker rather than wondering for days if I could have responded with a better return insult or scolding. Just make them disappear and move on.

If a DR ever talked to me like some people have said, I assure you, I'd never return.. and would probably post a scathing review in a few places to warn others. If a family member did that, I'd block them too! If they kept asking why I'm ignoring them, I'd ignore that question. Just leave them hanging. Don't give them the satisfaction or fuel for more nonsense. Replying almost always leads to more BS, so I generally just walk away and move on... Generally.

I'm quite capable of beating myself up.. don't need help in that department.

 

[Gwenhwyfar227]

I do, wouldn’t make sense to sell a product if I don’t know how it works. Though I can’t say how it works for other people, it gives an indication at least.

I’ll probably continue using it too because I find it practical, which is abusing the medicine instead of using it - since it probably doesn’t have any substantial health benefits for me.

I’m not against using this medication at all, your body your choice

I think my intention comes across or is interpreted in a different way than intended.

All I’m trying to say is that I find it unfortunate for anyone to say this medication is the only solution (even if it is). Since it quickly gives others who doesn’t necessarily need it an “excuse” to decide that’s true for them too.

I consider these peptides miracle drugs with close to no downside, the risk/reward is absurdly good - But it is still medicine, and minimal use should be encouraged as a standard practice.

It could be that there really are no real downside to long term or even permanent use - but until that is an established fact, it is somewhat irresponsible to encourage use.

I completely agree with you on not encouraging people to use anything. I encourage researching and not in the peptide term..but in reading and speaking to himan with knowledge on the subject you can find.

Are you Diabetic? Pre-diabetic?

 

[MingHenry]

Hell yes!! Say it louder for the people in the back!!

I just read an infuriating article about how these meds aren't dealing with the societal issues, re food, exercise, etc., so it's just the same thing over and over.

 

[Gwenhwyfar227]

It IS unfortunate, and it is, in fact, the only solution for millions of people. I'd bet a disability check that there isn't one single program or diet pill on the market that hasn't been thoroughly tested by the members here in this forum alone.

Of the hundreds of people I've talked to who are using glp1's, you are the only person I've come across who is taking it "for no good reason". Why are you using a medicine that you don't need and then lecturing others ad if they are doing the same? That comes across as projection.

This is a "given" as it's the #1 majority reason someone would need to get them through this route. 99.9% of people with diabetes can get them through insurance, cheaper than the direct from china route.

EVERYONE here has had the diet and exercise lecture more times than they can count, and we see it thrown in our faces constantly, so anytime someone mentions an alternate to glp1's, it clearly means diet and exercise, because that is the only true alternate. GLP1's allow many of us to control our appetite and work into a healthier lifestyle.

Most people do this and it's encouraged here

So you think everyone here is an irresponsible child? An addict? An idiot? What makes you think this community is loaded with people who need to hear this?

Generally, when one joins a forum, they spend considerable time reading, learning what it's about, and gauging the tone before jumping in with unsolicited advice.

It's not easy, and I'm far from practicing this 100%, but it's something to strive for. I've found it's better to block/ignore rather than respond. I tend to get over it quicker rather than wondering for days if I could have responded with a better return insult or scolding. Just make them disappear and move on.

If a DR ever talked to me like some people have said, I assure you, I'd never return.. and would probably post a scathing review in a few places to warn others. If a family member did that, I'd block them too! If they kept asking why I'm ignoring them, I'd ignore that question. Just leave them hanging. Don't give them the satisfaction or fuel for more nonsense. Replying almost always leads to more BS, so I generally just walk away and move on... Generally.

I'm quite capable of beating myself up.. don't need help in that department.

Yes...the wool got pulled from my eyes years ago on family. Let me set the stage for you..lol

My children go to Florida for the 1st time without me..I have to work..since I'm a single mother..my children go to spend the day with my family ( I am adopted...not something I would have ever pointed out until therapy and seeing the trauma inflicted...but I digress)

My aunts neighborhood is quite fancy and is family oriented. They hold a yearly block party..my kids are having a ball...playing...swimming..( my oldest has always been very very petite...my youngest is built like me...not a good thing for my family) I call my aunts to check in and see how they are before going to my 2nd job I worked..my father answers and proceeds to tell me how my 2nd was eating too much and how I need to keep an eye on her or she will end up like me...I hang up...get in my car...and drive a 12 hr drive in 8...I stop at my father's and tell him " say goodbye to your granddaughters...this is the last time you will speak with them until you get counseling on your toxic behavior "

I cut off my family..all of them...they all agreed...even though my child didn't have 5 pounds she could lose..we were both very muscular kids.

I went to counseling...I wrote them all letters..and I tried to raise my girls with so much self love.

 

[MingHenry]

Yes...the wool got pulled from my eyes years ago on family. Let me set the stage for you..lol

My children go to Florida for the 1st time without me..I have to work..since I'm a single mother..my children go to spend the day with my family ( I am adopted...not something I would have ever pointed out until therapy and seeing the trauma inflicted...but I digress)

My aunts neighborhood is quite fancy and is family oriented. They hold a yearly block party..my kids are having a ball...playing...swimming..( my oldest has always been very very petite...my youngest is built like me...not a good thing for my family) I call my aunts to check in and see how they are before going to my 2nd job I worked..my father answers and proceeds to tell me how my 2nd was eating too much and how I need to keep an eye on her or she will end up like me...I hang up...get in my car...and drive a 12 hr drive in 8...I stop at my father's and tell him " say goodbye to your granddaughters...this is the last time you will speak with them until you get counseling on your toxic behavior "

I cut off my family..all of them...they all agreed...even though my child didn't have 5 pounds she could lose..we were both very muscular kids.

I went to counseling...I wrote them all letters..and I tried to raise my girls with so much self love.

Incredible and I am so sorry. Did your father ever get it?

 

[Drexeldragon216]

I was always a “big boy” growing up. I played sports, was active, felt like I ate like the kids around me, yet I was the husky kid. I just got used to being made fun of. It wasn’t just people I didn’t know or “friends”, it was family and loved ones. Even if they didn’t think it was hurtful, it was. I ended up hating how I looked, I hated seeing myself in the mirror. I refused to take pictures as much as I could. I would walk by my reflection and actively look away. I tried every diet I could and I would loose a little weight, but it never stuck. Maybe it was will power, maybe it wasn’t. I don’t know. I always considered myself a failure because of this.

I have ended up with a beautiful family and good career, but accepted I was just going to be a big boy my whole life because no diet, no matter how hard I felt like I tried, worked long term. I didn’t even know what food noise was until I started compounded Tirz. It was like someone opened a door in my brain and I suddenly knew what that meant and how I had been thinking. Since I’ve started on Tirz, I have watched every meal I’ve eaten, I’ve consider every bite and portion size. I found the person inside of me that wanted to exercise and be active daily. The medicine has helped to change my drive. I actually look at myself now. Am I where I want to be? No. I’m getting there though and every day is better than the last.

I have found something that is helping me be the best version of myself I can be at the moment. I have a 110 day streak going on my Peloton and I am so proud of myself for that. In fact, the only person who knows that accomplishment is my wife. Luckily she has been able to see the me inside, not the me that people called fat and chubby and lazy. In the short time since I’ve joined this forum I feel like there are other people who understand what I’ve been through, without even having to say it.

Thank you for starting this thread and thank you all for sharing.

 

[Gwenhwyfar227]

Incredible and I am so sorry. Did your father ever get it?

No...I was always over reacting and I was the one needing help. Not that he ever tried to see the girls..he didn't want to be a dad let alone a grandfather. Lol...don't get me wrong..I loved my dad..but he had his shit to fix just like the rest of us..and he refused to see it

 

[goodvibes671]

Yes...the wool got pulled from my eyes years ago on family. Let me set the stage for you..lol

My children go to Florida for the 1st time without me..I have to work..since I'm a single mother..my children go to spend the day with my family ( I am adopted...not something I would have ever pointed out until therapy and seeing the trauma inflicted...but I digress)

My aunts neighborhood is quite fancy and is family oriented. They hold a yearly block party..my kids are having a ball...playing...swimming..( my oldest has always been very very petite...my youngest is built like me...not a good thing for my family) I call my aunts to check in and see how they are before going to my 2nd job I worked..my father answers and proceeds to tell me how my 2nd was eating too much and how I need to keep an eye on her or she will end up like me...I hang up...get in my car...and drive a 12 hr drive in 8...I stop at my father's and tell him " say goodbye to your granddaughters...this is the last time you will speak with them until you get counseling on your toxic behavior "

I cut off my family..all of them...they all agreed...even though my child didn't have 5 pounds she could lose..we were both very muscular kids.

I went to counseling...I wrote them all letters..and I tried to raise my girls with so much self love.

Lots of hugs to hand out in this forum today.

I’m sorry this happened to you and your daughter. Good on you for setting boundaries and cutting out the toxic people in your life. Sometimes people think that because they wear the title of ‘family’, that gives them a pass to cross boundaries and act like insensitive pricks. I have had to cut out close family members from my life in order to protect my mental health; best thing you could ever do for yourself. I give zero fuks about blood or family relation when they don’t care enough to respect my feelings to begin with.

 

[Broken Chef]

Yes...the wool got pulled from my eyes years ago on family. Let me set the stage for you..lol

My children go to Florida for the 1st time without me..I have to work..since I'm a single mother..my children go to spend the day with my family ( I am adopted...not something I would have ever pointed out until therapy and seeing the trauma inflicted...but I digress)

My aunts neighborhood is quite fancy and is family oriented. They hold a yearly block party..my kids are having a ball...playing...swimming..( my oldest has always been very very petite...my youngest is built like me...not a good thing for my family) I call my aunts to check in and see how they are before going to my 2nd job I worked..my father answers and proceeds to tell me how my 2nd was eating too much and how I need to keep an eye on her or she will end up like me...I hang up...get in my car...and drive a 12 hr drive in 8...I stop at my father's and tell him " say goodbye to your granddaughters...this is the last time you will speak with them until you get counseling on your toxic behavior "

I cut off my family..all of them...they all agreed...even though my child didn't have 5 pounds she could lose..we were both very muscular kids.

I went to counseling...I wrote them all letters..and I tried to raise my girls with so much self love.

That's unfortunate, but good for you! If that doesn't show spine and will power, nothing does! And it exemplifies why many of us are 1 "you should try diet and exercise" away from completely losing it on whoever said it.

 

[Gwenhwyfar227]

Lots of hugs to hand out in this forum today.

I’m sorry this happened to you and your daughter. Good on you for setting boundaries and cutting out the toxic people in your life. Sometimes people think that because they wear the title of ‘family’, that gives them a pass to cross boundaries and act like insensitive pricks. I have had to cut out close family members from my life in order to protect my mental health; best thing you could ever do for yourself. I give zero fuks about blood or family relation when they don’t care enough to respect my feelings to begin with.

In my experience..it's my * blood* that are the assholes...hahahahaha

I created the most loving ,caring, beautiful, accepting family. So no need for hugs for me...I came out the winning end...believe me..my circle is beautiful

But thank you. And I'm sorry you had to come to a place where you had to make that decision.

 

[goodvibes671]

In my experience..it's my * blood* that are the assholes...hahahahaha

I created the most loving ,caring, beautiful, accepting family. So no need for hugs for me...I came out the winning end...believe me..my circle is beautiful

But thank you. And I'm sorry you had to come to a place where you had to make that decision.

I love this for you! As for me, I’m okay. My life is full and happy, and I have forgiven those who hurt me, I just don’t associate with them anymore. I no longer harbor ill feelings, and pray for them instead.

 

[Gwenhwyfar227]

Yep...lots of therapy...but I got there...hahahaha

 

[Gwenhwyfar227]

I was always a “big boy” growing up. I played sports, was active, felt like I ate like the kids around me, yet I was the husky kid. I just got used to being made fun of. It wasn’t just people I didn’t know or “friends”, it was family and loved ones. Even if they didn’t think it was hurtful, it was. I ended up hating how I looked, I hated seeing myself in the mirror. I refused to take pictures as much as I could. I would walk by my reflection and actively look away. I tried every diet I could and I would loose a little weight, but it never stuck. Maybe it was will power, maybe it wasn’t. I don’t know. I always considered myself a failure because of this.

I have ended up with a beautiful family and good career, but accepted I was just going to be a big boy my whole life because no diet, no matter how hard I felt like I tried, worked long term. I didn’t even know what food noise was until I started compounded Tirz. It was like someone opened a door in my brain and I suddenly knew what that meant and how I had been thinking. Since I’ve started on Tirz, I have watched every meal I’ve eaten, I’ve consider every bite and portion size. I found the person inside of me that wanted to exercise and be active daily. The medicine has helped to change my drive. I actually look at myself now. Am I where I want to be? No. I’m getting there though and every day is better than the last.

I have found something that is helping me be the best version of myself I can be at the moment. I have a 110 day streak going on my Peloton and I am so proud of myself for that. In fact, the only person who knows that accomplishment is my wife. Luckily she has been able to see the me inside, not the me that people called fat and chubby and lazy. In the short time since I’ve joined this forum I feel like there are other people who understand what I’ve been through, without even having to say it.

Thank you for starting this thread and thank you all for sharing.

Isn't crazy what it feels like without the noise? I looked at my kids and husband and said " is this the way it always is for you?" And yes..I cried...and isn't it amazing to feel proud of yourself for something that has always been shameful?

Congratulations! I'm so happy for you! And you kick ass!

 

[Broken Chef]

Sheesh - I just realized that long message I posted was not what I meant to post.. The entire top 2/3 was typed and deleted, but because I forgot to "delete the draft" it posted anyhow . Fixed it.

I write probably double the amount I post, but then rethink and delete it. This has caught me on a few occasions, not just here, but on other forums.

HOWEVER - I am suddenly no longer able to edit my posts. Is anyone else seeing that the edit option has disappeared?

This has been fixed to, Zip changed it back to 24hrs.

 

[goodvibes671]

Sheesh - I just realized that long message I posted was not what I meant to post.. The entire top 2/3 was typed and deleted, but because I forgot to "delete the draft" it posted anyhow.

I write probably double the amount I post, but then rethink and delete it. This has caught me on a few occasions, not just here, but on other forums.

HOWEVER - I am suddenly no longer able to edit my posts. Is anyone else seeing that the edit option has disappeared?

I can still edit my posts.

 

[nurseratchit]

It IS unfortunate, and it is, in fact, the only solution for millions of people. I'd bet a disability check that there isn't one single program or diet pill on the market that hasn't been thoroughly tested by the members here in this forum alone.

Of the hundreds of people I've talked to who are using glp1's, you are the only person I've come across who is taking it "for no good reason". Why are you using a medicine that you don't need and then lecturing others ad if they are doing the same? That comes across as projection.

This is a "given" as it's the #1 majority reason someone would need to get them through this route. 99.9% of people with diabetes can get them through insurance, cheaper than the direct from china route.

EVERYONE here has had the diet and exercise lecture more times than they can count, and we see it thrown in our faces constantly, so anytime someone mentions an alternate to glp1's, it clearly means diet and exercise, because that is the only true alternate. GLP1's allow many of us to control our appetite and work into a healthier lifestyle.

Most people do this and it's encouraged here

So you think everyone here is an irresponsible child? An addict? An idiot? What makes you think this community is loaded with people who need to hear this?

Generally, when one joins a forum, they spend considerable time reading, learning what it's about, and gauging the tone before jumping in with unsolicited advice.

It's not easy, and I'm far from practicing this 100%, but it's something to strive for. I've found it's better to block/ignore rather than respond. I tend to get over it quicker rather than wondering for days if I could have responded with a better return insult or scolding. Just make them disappear and move on.

If a DR ever talked to me like some people have said, I assure you, I'd never return.. and would probably post a scathing review in a few places to warn others. If a family member did that, I'd block them too! If they kept asking why I'm ignoring them, I'd ignore that question. Just leave them hanging. Don't give them the satisfaction or fuel for more nonsense. Replying almost always leads to more BS, so I generally just walk away and move on... Generally.

I'm quite capable of beating myself up.. don't need help in that department.

Couldn’t have said it better, Chef. I had to stop engaging with this joker who just seems interested in hearing himself talk.

 

[Drexeldragon216]

Isn't crazy what it feels like without the noise? I looked at my kids and husband and said " is this the way it always is for you?" And yes..I cried...and isn't it amazing to feel proud of yourself for something that has always been shameful?

Congratulations! I'm so happy for you! And you kick ass!

It really is. I’ve never in my 40 years on this planet felt that way. Thank you for the kind words, I really do appreciate it.

 

[nurseratchit]

Sheesh - I just realized that long message I posted was not what I meant to post.. The entire top 2/3 was typed and deleted, but because I forgot to "delete the draft" it posted anyhow.

I write probably double the amount I post, but then rethink and delete it. This has caught me on a few occasions, not just here, but on other forums.

HOWEVER - I am suddenly no longer able to edit my posts. Is anyone else seeing that the edit option has disappeared?

I think the ability to edit goes away once someone else has reacted to or commented on the post. Sometimes I type my notes elsewhere and then cut and paste.