Enclomiphene Experience (12.5mg): Higher Test, Better Recovery, Leaner Build

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Pin&Play said:
I thought Tesa or any GHRH becomes useless once you start HGH, since you're shutting down endogenous production and the pituitary gland stops working. But I'm not an expert
You are correct.
 
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Galapagosfit said:
yess i'm very curious too about the progress
The reason I asked is because most people who go this route to increase test usually run into estrogen issues, with varying degrees of severity, anywhere from 2 to 4 months down the road. I very rarely hear of success stories with SARMs that don't take place within this 3 month window.

It seems to me that exogenous test is much less complicated and in many ways less risky. Not to mention that the risk of permanent shutdown is not at all what it used to be, thanks to HCG. Still a complicated, expensive, and risky path that requires a great deal of research and some luck.
 
fatjacked said:
i know this is an old post, but curious about how long these liquid suspensions from MA stay stable when refrigerated? do you have to buy & use quickly or can you stockpile a bit?
I haven't used those products, but enclomiphine is a small molecule pharmaceutical. It will likely last almost indefinitely, stored at room temperature, like most drugs. I still have some prescription naltrexone from 2018 that I use today.
 
We've experimented with 6.75mg and 12.5mg Enclomiphene per day. On 2 men, the 6.75 didn't raise testosterone levels much above natural levels (400-600). 12.5mg got them both to between 1100 and 1200. Another uses Clomid with similar results.
 
birdwhacker said:
I haven't used those products, but enclomiphine is a small molecule pharmaceutical. It will likely last almost indefinitely, stored at room temperature, like most drugs. I still have some prescription naltrexone from 2018 that I use today.

interesting, after searching around on this i have kept all my liquid suspensions in the fridge, most seem to keep ok but i don't have a lot of frame of reference on efficacy / strength for some of the experimental compounds
 
birdwhacker said:
You can also do proper TRT without a doctor. Blood tests can run less than $100 in America, get a bottle of UGL test for $35, start at 80-120mg and shoot for 800-1100 total T. Much cheaper and you don't have the dangerous illusion that your doctor is on top of things (they often aren't).
I’m in Canada all the blood work is free I just pay $45cdn/vial of taro test cyp.
 
Redz said:
I’m in Canada all the blood work is free I just pay $45cdn/vial of taro test cyp.
I asked my doctor for a blood test to look at my testo. He tell me that i have a beard and some muscles, so for him my testo is perfect like that. No need to look at it... Thank you to my free doctor.
 
Galapagosfit said:
I asked my doctor for a blood test to look at my testo. He tell me that i have a beard and some muscles, so for him my testo is perfect like that. No need to look at it... Thank you to my free doctor.
Yeah lots are junk I hit the jackpot with mine he says we treat symptoms not just numbers too. He wants me at the top of the range and already bumped me from. 200mg to 225mg/week. You need to try another doctor.

Alternatively did you try telling your doctor you have symptoms like low libido and poor sleep, poor energy etc.
 
Airborne Daddy said:
225 of test would have me at 2000.... 100mg gets me 700-900
Yeah I’m a big dude 6’2 271lbs currently. Last time I was at 249lbs i was 9% bf so I’m working on getting back down there to the 240’s. I’m in range at 225mg/week.
 
Ajejebrazorf said:
What’s your baseline for body fat ? I wanna start too, but I’m 31% BF, afraid about aromatase.
I waited until I was around 185-195....w/in 10% of my goals. Withings puts me at 22.5%BF in normal mode and 11.9% in athletics setting. Both are incorrect so I'm guessing around 17-20%

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Ajejebrazorf said:
Buddy, any sides in the beginning, I’m 6.25 ED , first days were terrible, zero energy, nausea, now I’m at day 6, afternoon quite tired but
Curious, did you conclude ost would give less side effects than test, so choose that?
 
Gt3294a said:
Curious, did you conclude ost would give less side effects than test, so choose that?
I don't wanna start with test now, I know myself I would keep raising and mess up everything. First I optimize my natural T, lose weight, then I will decide to start an endless trip ahah, dont wanna shrinked balls, love mine ahah
 
Ajejebrazorf said:
I don't wanna start with test now, I know myself I would keep raising and mess up everything. First I optimize my natural T, lose weight, then I will decide to start an endless trip ahah, dont wanna shrinked balls, love mine ahah
Good you know yourself. I also don’t know a single person that has ever done only one cycle. Ost might shrink your balls, too, since it suppresses testosterone production. I was curious because I always found interesting that theoretically an argument could be made SARMs are safer, but the majority seems to disagree in practice.
 
Gt3294a said:
Good you know yourself. I also don’t know a single person that has ever done only one cycle. Ost might shrink your balls, too, since it suppresses testosterone production. I was curious because I always found interesting that theoretically an argument could be made SARMs are safer, but the majority seems to disagree in practice.
Already feeling a shift in mood, more active, more reactive, some good morning wood, but still need time to adjust, I just have the afternoon crash, its so annoying
 
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