对于体重在 10-15 磅之间的宝宝，Tirz 值得我考虑吗？
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Only sales have moq. I don't know of any vendors that you can't buy a single kit from at their list price.Mewtwo said:
Is it possible you have loose skin fucking with your perception and it’s not really flab? I have a son at 5’11” 160lbs who’s pretty muscular but he’s super lean at that weight. Can’t imagine dropping anymore. I have another at 5’8 and 145 but is built like a pit bull, 10lbs lighter he was 4% body fat and while he did have muscle, he was mostly just skinny. My point is you may need to work on adding more lean mass.
Bodybuilders use glp’s to cut, but they’re also solidly built. How long have you been training? The meso forums would be a better resource for you if you want to improve body composition.
Lastly, there is evidence going off and on the peptides can make them less effective at the lower doses. Something to keep in mind if you are wanting to cycle off and on. If you start at the lowest suggested dose and lose quickly, I’d cut the dose in half, giving yourself more room to dose higher later.
Bodybuilders use glp’s to cut, but they’re also solidly built. How long have you been training? The meso forums would be a better resource for you if you want to improve body composition.
Lastly, there is evidence going off and on the peptides can make them less effective at the lower doses. Something to keep in mind if you are wanting to cycle off and on. If you start at the lowest suggested dose and lose quickly, I’d cut the dose in half, giving yourself more room to dose higher later.
You're right. At this point the cost of most of the GLP1's at a low dose is about the cost of Pizza every month.normal said:
I’ve been consistently training for about two years, been lifting on and off for a number of years before that. Always been athletic, just hit a rough patch mentally in college. I would say I didn’t really know what I was doing training and nutrition wise until the last year or so. I 100% don’t have enough muscle, as I’ve been trying to lose all this fat for the last two years, so I’ve never had an opportunity to do a proper bulk.Superchicken1 said:
I don’t know if it’s fat distribution genetics or what, but it’s not loose skin. I 100% have an inner tube of fat around my midsection that I can grab. Even though I have lost around 50-60 pounds, it’s been very slow and I am young with elastic skin, so I don’t think I have much loose skin, if any.
My goal with this substance is to overshoot a sustainable day to day bodyfat, get down to around 10%, and then start a lean bulk. I may use it again in the future if I find it to be very helpful with minimal sides, but I would prefer to get muscle on my frame, raising my TDEE to a point where cutting isn’t so difficult, and being more satisfied with my physique at a higher bf%, where I don’t have to use any substance to maintain my body.
Getting down to 180 was pretty easy, to get to 160 I’ve been eating 1500 cals, walking 4 miles a day, and strength training 3-4 times a week. Obviously a horrible experience that left me constantly tired, hungry, and in a bad mood. I know I can get down to ~150 on my own, but ideally the peptide will just make it less painful of an experience. My biggest issues when cutting is constant hunger, food noise, and impulse control. Seems like I would be a very good candidate for the drug and if I decide to try it out and then don’t need it in the future, seems like the potential long term effects of one or two cycles is negligible, especially compared to something like testosterone.
我们大多数通过 tirz/sema 减肥的男性最终都会变成那样，所以如果你有信心无论如何都能减肥成功，并且你的目标是防止出现瘦胖型身材……那么 tirz 可能就不值得尝试了。Mewtwo said:感谢你的建议，这是我说的脂肪含量，供你参考。我减脂期结束时很可能会太瘦，但我的目标并不是减到145-150磅并保持这个体重。那太疯狂了
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我的意思是，你坐着或弯腰的时候需要一些皮肤吗？我见过一些身材很好的人（像你一样）对腹部皮肤过度关注，甚至去做腹部拉皮手术！结果就是你眨一下眼，直肠就脱垂了！你想变得那么紧吗？Mewtwo said:感谢你的建议，这是我说的脂肪含量，供你参考。我减脂期结束时很可能会太瘦，但我的目标并不是减到145-150磅并保持这个体重。那太疯狂了
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恕我直言，这跟GLP-1无关，因为等到腹部皮肤受到影响的时候，你身体其他部位早就变得像《行尸走肉》里那样丑陋不堪了。腹部似乎是减肥后最后才会受益的部位。
做仰卧起坐的时候收紧括约肌，然后重复。这应该可以收紧你的腹部，同时让你的大肠保持在它应该在的位置。
多了解一些情况总是好的。你准确测量过自己的体脂率吗？你可能只是基因不好，脂肪更容易堆积在那里。我和你身高一样，现在体重刚过200磅（之前是256磅）。我的体脂率在双能X射线吸收法（DEXA）上是35%，但我的目标是减到160磅，体脂率10%。Mewtwo said:在健美论坛之外问这个问题可能是个错误
True, but I think to people outside of the bodybuilding sphere it comes off as fickle or insecure to be concerned about 15% vs 10% bodyfat and they don’t understand the motivations behind it, which is understandable.zpped said:
I have not gotten a dexa, the most I’ve done is rough estimations based on an online calculator that takes measurements at a few different points, like your neck, waist, ect and factors in your height, weight, and age. It’s not the most accurate, but it’s pretty close and has tracked accurately in terms of how much weight I’ve lost corresponding to the drop in bf% that it calculates. Just looking at male bodyfat charts too I think 16% is pretty damn accurate.
Also, 10% bodyfat is insanely shredded. I may have unlucky genetics with how my fat distributes on my body, but after a certain point genetics really don’t matter that much. At 10% bodyfat you can start to see striations in muscle and will certainly not have the “soft” look that I’m working with now. I know it’s a YouTube thumbnail optimized for engagement, so not a 100% accurate picture, but I definitely feel like my physique is currently like the before and I would like to approach the after. I don’t think that’s impossible.
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I didn't measure at the time but I think I was about 10%bf when I weighed 144lbs coming out of Basic Training. I'd like to get there again with more mass and see how it feels before I decide on my long term goal. Everyone is going to have different amount of difficulty walking around at 10% long term. But there isn't any health differences between 10-20% in general and most people here just trying to get into that healthy range.Mewtwo said:
Yeah tesa/ipa is a growth hormone secretagogue combo that is theoretically safer than just taking gh direct. Often used by the body builders for that last bit of cut while maintaining as much mass as possible.
Yeah after seeing the pic, I agree that a tesa/ipa stack may be more appropriate for what they're looking forjaestar said:
Hard to tell with the squishing angle and not full body. It does look like some extra fat, but I think it’s more of also being undermuscled.Mewtwo said:I appreciate the advice, here’s the fat im talking about for reference. I will very likely be too skinny at peak cut, but the intention is not to get to 145-150 pounds and maintain that. That would be insane
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And yeah, i suggested the Meso forums for better advice from people who actually train. I’m a woman, but it’s majority men there and their advice generally is pretty solid overall
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