对于那些通过Reddit用户推荐来到这里的人来说……

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Derby said:
这个论坛不在美国。我们就算把网址直接发给礼来公司的律师,也不会有什么结果。
把一个空间广播给一群原本不会自己找到它的人,会降低这个空间的整体质量。难道大家都想把这里变成下一个Reddit吗?因为这里的讨论氛围正朝着这个方向发展。这个地方的优点之一就是它不是Reddit……但如果把它宣传到Reddit上,大家只会把同样的 混蛋 态度带过去,把这个论坛变成一个不再有理性讨论的地方,只剩下“告诉我我该不该用QSC?”这种没完没了的帖子。
 
我不认为大型制药公司安插间谍是问题所在。更确切地说,是灰色市场客户群体扩大,使其受到更多关注,从而可能导致更严格的监管。

另外,我在另一个帖子里也提到过,几个月前,中国一家大型制药企业因为直接向西方客户销售药品而引起关注,被中共查封。据说他们的主要销售代表被送往再教育营或被处决了。人们的想法是,保持低调可以防止此类事件再次发生。
 
Chizikitide-1977 said:
I don't think big pharma spies are the issue. It's more that a larger customer base for the grey market gives it more attention which can lead to more regulation.

Also I posted this in another thread, but there was a major manufacturer in China that was shut down by the CCP a few months ago for attracting attention from selling directly to customers in the west. And their main sales rep was allegedly taken to a re-education camp or executed. The thinking is that keeping things on the down low will prevent this type of thing from happening again.
Thank you for your intelligent input and I agree with you. I still don’t trust every user that shows up, but yes keeping attention to a minimum is protecting the community.
 
Chizikitide-1977 said:
I don't think big pharma spies are the issue. It's more that a larger customer base for the grey market gives it more attention which can lead to more regulation.

Also I posted this in another thread, but there was a major manufacturer in China that was shut down by the CCP a few months ago for attracting attention from selling directly to customers in the west. And their main sales rep was allegedly taken to a re-education camp or executed. The thinking is that keeping things on the down low will prevent this type of thing from happening again.
If they were imprisoned or executed, they were doing a LOT more than just selling tirzepatide to Americans. The Chinese government reserves that kind of punishment, especially execution, for high level corruption. This person would have been involved in something like major bribery, large scale theft, endangering the public safety, etc...
 
Most of the Chinese vendors that sell glp1s also sell several controlled substances. Also the CCP is notoriously inconsistent. It's not exactly the type of justice we get in the west. People are "disappeared" for lots of things in China.

The story is all over the place. Search for "peter" here, on meso, I've even seen it on Reddit.
 
Chizikitide-1977 said:
Most of the Chinese vendors that sell glp1s also sell several controlled substances. Also the CCP is notoriously inconsistent. It's not exactly the type of justice we get in the west. People are "disappeared" for lots of things in China.

The story is all over the place. Search for "peter" here, on meso, I've even seen it on Reddit.
That's what I was kind of getting at..... this isn't a GLP-1 problem, more like a smuggling fentanyl problem, or selling illegal drugs to the Chinese people type of problem
 
Stairmaster1 said:
I’m doing my best to help! Hard to thread the needle on helping and getting banned. The safety and sterility post got deleted by reddit… they don’t want people to be safe. They want it to be as hard as possible to appease Eli Lilly’s advertising dollars and lawyers.
We miss you! We had an idiot yesterday trying to sell a sublingual scammy version, and we all fired him. Boo has been nice to let us know you've been kicked out temporarily.
 
moonpies4misfits said:
This thread has gotten entirely way out of hand and is not contributing anything useful at this point. Paging @ZippityDooDah and the Cherub of Justice @exploitedworkerbee
Cherub of Justice! Incredible title.
 
If the debate is over whether lots of attention and failure to be discrete leads to unwanted attention, there isn’t a question: it absolutely does. That doesn’t have to mean FBI raids. It can mean stuff like too many people using a specific bac water provider who gets spooked and starts requiring evidence of a medical license, for example. Or too many people piling onto a popular vendor who grows too big to deliver continued good service. Loose lips sink ships. 🤫

If the debate is over whether you need to question the motives of internet strangers in the context of one of the biggest cash grabs of our lifetime, the answer is also yes, and you’re naive if you think otherwise.
 
exploitedworkerbee said:
If the debate is over whether lots of attention and failure to be discrete leads to unwanted attention, there isn’t a question: it absolutely does. That doesn’t have to mean FBI raids. It can mean stuff like too many people using a specific bac water provider who gets spooked and starts requiring evidence of a medical license, for example. Or too many people piling onto a popular vendor who grows too big to deliver continued good service. Loose lips sink ships. 🤫

If the debate is over whether you need to question the motives of internet strangers in the context of one of the biggest cash grabs of our lifetime, the answer is also yes, and you’re naive if you think otherwise.
Well said.
 
Anyone here part of RepLadies? This kind of reminds me of what happened in 2022. Too much exposure/growth lead to an overzealous NYT reporter writing an article and getting a bunch of sellers raided/shut down. The community had to go dark for a while. It’s just designer handbags so not as big of a deal as losing access to medication obvi lol but there are a lot of parallels with the China factories and seller personalities/competition etc.
 
delululemonade said:
Anyone here part of RepLadies? This kind of reminds me of what happened in 2022. Too much exposure/growth lead to an overzealous NYT reporter writing an article and getting a bunch of sellers raided/shut down. The community had to go dark for a while. It’s just designer handbags so not as big of a deal as losing access to medication obvi lol but there are a lot of parallels with the China factories and seller personalities/competition etc.
Ayyyy I love finding crossovers in the wild. Those were the days, splintered Discord servers don't hit the same.
 
ChinchillaPoop024 said:
Ayyyy I love finding crossovers in the wild. Those were the days, splintered Discord servers don't hit the same.
Yeah but it’s safer this way. The discretion here especially makes sense to me after seeing that all implode so fast. More at stake for both buyers and sellers. It wasn’t even a bad actor that took it all down it was just a reporter who stumbled onto an interesting story trying to buy one herself haha. The community recovered but I think some sellers/factories were permanently shut down.
 
exploitedworkerbee said:
If the debate is over whether lots of attention and failure to be discrete leads to unwanted attention, there isn’t a question: it absolutely does. That doesn’t have to mean FBI raids. It can mean stuff like too many people using a specific bac water provider who gets spooked and starts requiring evidence of a medical license, for example. Or too many people piling onto a popular vendor who grows too big to deliver continued good service. Loose lips sink ships. 🤫

If the debate is over whether you need to question the motives of internet strangers in the context of one of the biggest cash grabs of our lifetime, the answer is also yes, and you’re naive if you think otherwise.
As an admin, do you want me to pull all references to your site?
 
Stairmaster1 said:
As an admin, do you want me to pull all references to your site?
to the best of my knowledge there isn’t any prohibition on sharing the link to this site @ZippityDooDah can correct me if I’m wrong. Obviously if you’re in a group full of dipshits maybe you keep it to yourself though.
 
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