Do vial cap removers actually work?

[attcbf]

I tried taking the top off a vial with this tool to get to the last of the pep for the first time the other day, and completely botched it.

How can I avoid the following from happening?

1) the tool actually also took a piece of the glass rim of the vial along with the crimp. I have since practiced on empty vials and more often then not the same thing happens.

2) if using a 8mm syringe, with the top off, there was very little suction to get any liquid out, and if you turn the vial too much vertically, whatever is left just spills out. TIA

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[sheilarae74]

Damn, I just bought one of those when I ordered my BAC water. The things I do for free shipping.

 

[Labcat]

I use sanitized (instapot) tiny pliers and peel the crimp off. Then stick a 0.3ml insulin syringe into the vial to get the last bits

 

[woundcarping]

I just turn the vial upside down, suck while pulling the needle out slowly.

I’m not worried about the last vestiges of a drop, the syringe likely cost as much as the remnants in the vial.

 

[Grogu]

I just turn the vial upside down, suck while pulling the needle out slowly.

I’m not worried about the last vestiges of a drop, the syringe likely cost as much as the remnants in the vial.

This is exactly what I do too! Takes a little bit of patience and practice, but any small drop that remains in the vial is truly inconsequential.

Opening the vial with a vial cap remover is the last thing I would do. I know that a lot of people do it, but I'd be afraid of the glass issue and also just opening the vial to the open air.

 

[AlexSilver]

I just turn the vial upside down, suck while pulling the needle out slowly.

I’m not worried about the last vestiges of a drop, the syringe likely cost as much as the remnants in the vial.

Right! I also use a short 29g 4mm needle for that last bit out of the vial so I don't have to worry about how far in the needle is.

 

[woundcarping]

How many units is that stuck to the wall? It cost $.03/unit.

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[AlexSilver]

How many units is that stuck to the wall? It cost $.03/unit.

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I have sucked it all up in the past cause I was worried about that. Even when there is a big looking drop stuck in the vial curve near the top, still 1 unit or less. Not enough to care about anymore.

 

[AlexSilver]

Actually, nowadays, when I am reconning with for example 1ml bac water, I use will only .5ml and put it in a pen cartridge. Then put another fresh .5 ml of bac water in the empty vial to rinse it out, then add that to my cartridge, and voilà! I have 1ml in my cartridge and I am now reasonably sure there is nothing left in the vial worth working for.

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[BNLFL]

I just turn the vial upside down, suck while pulling the needle out slowly.

I’m not worried about the last vestiges of a drop, the syringe likely cost as much as the remnants in the vial.

This.

 

[Lovedog100]

I just turn the vial upside down, suck while pulling the needle out slowly.

I’m not worried about the last vestiges of a drop, the syringe likely cost as much as the remnants in the vial.

I do the same thing for some reason the last shot in the vial is a little over on my weekly dose, or a little under. Usually over. I would rather use it than toss it. I've got pretty good at slowly pulling the needle out as I draw the last drop. Thinking about it now, it seems to be a weird ritual to go through at the end of the vial. I think I do it more for the Tesamorelin because the dose is so small that last drop seems more important.

 

[CNCCurrency]

I tried taking the top off a vial with this tool to get to the last of the pep for the first time the other day, and completely botched it.

How can I avoid the following from happening?

1) the tool actually also took a piece of the glass rim of the vial along with the crimp. I have since practiced on empty vials and more often then not the same thing happens.

2) if using a 8mm syringe, with the top off, there was very little suction to get any liquid out, and if you turn the vial too much vertically, whatever is left just spills out. TIA

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I just split the cheap metal ring on the vial with a knife or scissors and peel it off.

 

[SeaGypsy]

I just turn the vial upside down, suck while pulling the needle out slowly.

I’m not worried about the last vestiges of a drop, the syringe likely cost as much as the remnants in the vial.

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This is the way

 

[desinr-gal]

I just turn the vial upside down, suck while pulling the needle out slowly.

I’m not worried about the last vestiges of a drop, the syringe likely cost as much as the remnants in the vial.

if you have a larger MG amount and have to recon with a smaller ml, as is often the case, since they use 10mg vials, what you leave behind starts to matter more.. using 1 long needle to suck it all up becomes worth the effort. Doing it Upside down a lot of liquid gets held around that large plug.

 

[Chili777]

I have one of those little bottle openers and it works fine. I've used it on several vendor's vials and so far no problems. I only use it to empty a vial for nasal sprays. I use a 1.5" 27g noodle when I'm pulling the entire contents of a reconstituted vial for filtering.

 

[woundcarping]

if you have a larger MG amount and have to recon with a smaller ml, as is often the case, since they use 10mg vials, what you leave behind starts to matter more.. using 1 long needle to suck it all up becomes worth the effort. Doing it Upside down a lot of liquid gets held around that large plug.

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Large stopper, how many units are stuck to the wall? It's not what I'd call "a lot."

Beyond that, if I'm reconning a 120-140mg vial, I'm likely transferring it to a 5ml vial so I can have a reasonable concentration/injection volume. Doing that I can rinse the initial vial with the BAC heading to the 5ml vial... still not seeing the issue. If that's 5 units left in the vial, without the rinse, that'd be ~$.53 worth of Reta at 140mg/3ml.

 

[deluge]

I just split the cheap metal ring on the vial with a knife or scissors and peel it off.

Same here. I used a good pair of Fiskars scissors to snip the aluminum ring, jam a 0.5ml needle in, and pull out the last little bit, back when I was using diabetic syringes.

Now I'm using a peppen so it's not necessary; I reconstitute, draw, filter and put in a carpuject.

 

[BNLFL]

I have one of those little bottle openers and it works fine. I've used it on several vendor's vials and so far no problems. I only use it to empty a vial for nasal sprays. I use a 1.5" 27g noodle when I'm pulling the entire contents of a reconstituted vial for filtering.

The 1.5" is the ticket for that.

 

[Labcat]

How much is left in that droplet stuck to the rim at the bottom of the vial even if you turn it upside down?

I just opened my EL vial (15mg/0.5ml) and found 4u (1.2mg) stuck at the bottom of the 2ml vial (the new vials are suspiciously similar to the chinese vials. No longer the wider bigger vials from last year. Which I suspect has even more remaining stuck to the larger surface.)

I pull out the last dose(s) from an open vial with using an insulin syringe or two. I just freeze the extra syringe (do leave an airspace at the needle end), capped at both ends.

 

[CariocaLeftSeoul]

I never had issues using the same tool you have. That said I got tired of tipping vials upside down, and got a 22G 1.5" needle and empty the vial that way when I'm reconstituting to add to my pens.