Considering Survodutide

[tncc_rn]

How does survo compare in “feels” to reta or tirz?

Which do you guys think is the stronger drug?

Survo really knocks down the food noise when used with Triz for me.

 

[brentm]

Survo really knocks down the food noise when used with Triz for me.

I agree.. I really dig it.

 

[Super Trips]

survo is alot like sema but about 2- 3x stronger at first

 

[Lullabytreehugger]

Currently im at 12mgs reta (6mgs twice a week) if I needed to change to survo how strong a dose would I need?

Also how strong is survo for fatty liver?

 

[Super Trips]

Currently im at 12mgs reta (6mgs twice a week) if I needed to change to survo how strong a dose would I need?

Also how strong is survo for fatty liver?

start a 1mg survo it clogs you up pretty good to start

 

[Calm Logic]

Is there any consensus at all about tirz + reta vs. tirz + survo? It seems the answer is "hell no"?

I am leaning towards trying survo first:

I'm using Triz as my base. But when it started to loose its effectiveness, I started stacking with Reta and Cargi. That worked great, except for the fatigue. Never had the Tachycardia.

Now I do Triz and Servo, and for me this is the magic bullet.

Survo really knocks down the food noise when used with Triz for me.

Reta spiked my rate to ~125 after only 2 hrs. after my first dose, and it took 4 weeks after stopping to return to my normal 68-70.

Started Tirz then at 2.5, have advanced to 7.5 every 5 days and and Surv2 3 days later and still normal HR.

One thing I was recommended to try with the Tirz after a few weeks was add 1mg of Survo 3 days after every Tirz. Adds more GLP-1 and Glucagon which makes it work a lot like Reta without the cardiac side effect and helps with the food noise. Absolutely happy with that so far. Problem is, one-size-fits-all doesn't work well in this research effort.

5 mg Tirz every 5 days with 2mg Survo 3 days later. Losing 2 - 3 lbs weekly, good satiety and the Survo took care of the food noise. Liking this combo.

Absolutely no suppression from 2mg or 4mg Reta. I was on 7.5mg Tirz then decided to stack with reta as a last push for the last 15lbs.

Idk what or how Reta does it, but those last 15lbs FELL OFF. I was dosing Tirz every 5 days, reta 2 days after Tirz.

I think if you don't struggle with overthinking about food, reta might be a solid single choice for you. But if you do, it's a good option to stack with a good suppression.

If your looking for something different then Tirz, Survo is a great place to start too

Edited to add:

I got a R24 kit from PGB that im letting go 350 shipped usps tracking

I stopped Reta after better results with survo and tirz

 

[o2begrn]

Following

 

[ktg123]

Going to try some Survo as soon as a couple vials of Maz are gone. I've stacked it with 12mg Tirz and 1.3mg Cagri. I honestly can't tell that any of them are doing much. I dropped Reta because of tachycardia.

 

[Calm Logic]

Your tachycardia with reta didn't mean more energy, right?

 

[ktg123]

Your tachycardia with reta didn't mean more energy, right?

I have noticed being more tired during the day since dropping it. I've been off it for about a month and my heart rate has only dropped marginally.

Heck, if in another month it still hasn't dropped, I may as well go back to Reta.

 

[ktg123]

Let me qualify my statement that none of them seem to be doing much.

That could be because of the Test and hgh that I've started. They may be offsetting the appetite suppression of the others.

 

[DR.D.]

I'm on Tirz now...

It's really between Retatrutide and Survodutide... Reta can cause an increase in resting heart rate, where Survo is reported not to have that side effect. That's the main reason I'm curious about Survo.

Why not blaze some new territory? But then Reta 100mg is 125 on promo...

 

[byefatlicia]

This is where I'm leaning too. SSA quoted me 10mg kit of Survo for 235. Haven't pulled the trigger but I'm close.

 

[DR.D.]

Let me qualify my statement that none of them seem to be doing much.

That could be because of the Test and hgh that I've started. They may be offsetting the appetite suppression of the others.

You'll likely need to increase your doses. GH does that, and GLPs don't antagonize that mechanism.

 

[FlowerFairy]

I'm on Tirz now...

It's really between Retatrutide and Survodutide... Reta can cause an increase in resting heart rate, where Survo is reported not to have that side effect. That's the main reason I'm curious about Survo.

Why not blaze some new territory? But then Reta 100mg is 125 on promo...

Reta does not usually cause an increased heart rate unless it is titrated up too quickly. It takes a month for you to feel the full effects of Reta in your system. I’ve been on it for 2 years and only started hearing about the increased heart rate when I joined some forums and met people who titrated very quickly.

That said, I’ve been looking at Survo out of curiosity. If you choose to go with Survo I’ll be watching to see how you do.

 

[DR.D.]

Reta does not usually cause an increased heart rate unless it is titrated up too quickly. It takes a month for you to feel the full effects of Reta in your system. I’ve been on it for 2 years and only started hearing about the increased heart rate when I joined some forums and met people who titrated very quickly.

That said, I’ve been looking at Survo out of curiosity. If you choose to go with Survo I’ll be watching to see how you do.

There may be other factors involved too. Most of the people I hear reporting higher PR, titrated slowly, but they're also on TRT as well. The actions of Insulin and Androgen are intricately connected.

 

[FlowerFairy]

There may be other factors involved too. Most of the people I hear reporting higher PR, titrated slowly, but they're also on TRT as well. The actions of Insulin and Androgen are intricately connected.

Yeah that would make a huge difference- no one mentioned that, but thinking back, most of the folks I knew definitely fit that criteria!

 

[G Vice]

I have a higher resting HR since being on Reta. I can’t feel it, but I do measure it with my Omron Blood Pressure machine most mornings.

After sitting at my computer for a solid 15 minutes, I use my BP machine to get truly resting values.

Typical BP 104/60s - 108/60s

Typical HR 87-92

My pre-pep resting HRs were always 60-80.

 

[BooneDonk]

I have a higher resting HR since being on Reta. I can’t feel it, but I do measure it with my Omron Blood Pressure machine most mornings.

After sitting at my computer for a solid 15 minutes, I use my BP machine to get truly resting values.

Typical BP 104/60s - 108/60s

Typical HR 87-92

My pre-pep resting HRs were always 60-80.

 

[Calm Logic]

I have a higher resting HR since being on Reta. I can’t feel it, but I do measure it with my Omron Blood Pressure machine most mornings.

After sitting at my computer for a solid 15 minutes, I use my BP machine to get truly resting values.

Typical BP 104/60s - 108/60s

Typical HR 87-92

My pre-pep resting HRs were always 60-80.

That reminds me of the theory that people with lower BPs will have greater HR increase.