Great lucking forward to your updates. Try to eat clean too with clean carbs and protein.
从今天开始！
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WEEK 1 UPDATE
I started on Wednesday, but I will keep my updates to Fridays. That mean, this first update is actually a bit more than a week long. But from next update (WEEK 2), it will be exactly one week long.
WEIGHT
On Wednesday last week I was 94.5 kg around 4pm. But I have since started weighing myself in the morning first thing right after taking a piss. Therefore, this first weighing is a bit misleading because you tend to weight 0.5-1kg less in the morning.
Last week: 94.5kg / 208.3 lbs
Now: 93.3kg / 205.7 lbs
Difference: -1.2kg / -2.7 lbs
PROTOCOL
0.5 mg reta Tuesday morning (6am ish)
0.5 mg reta Friday afternoon (6 pm ish)
The reason for this protocol is because I think it is better than dosing full once a week. Because the half-life is 6 days, why don't we split the dose into two times a week? Who is forcing us to do once a week, right?
But, actually, hehe, the main main reason was because I started on Wednesday last week with 0.5 mg (my first time using reta) and by Friday I was impatience for greater effect so I thought if I injected another 0.5 mg I'm still at just 1mg a week. But then I did some calculations and found out that if i split 7 days in half that's 3.5 days. So, each 3.5 days can be Friday afternoon and Tuesday morning (I know this can be a bit confusing but trust me, that's 3.5 days in between those times).
DIARY
I had zero idea what to expect taking reta 0.5 mg first time. After injecting on Wednesday evening, I decided to fast on Thursday. And surprisingly, it felt "easy". I wasn't so hungry! So I thought "Wow, the reta works already!". About half Thursday in, I had a massive headache, and I figured it was because I forgot to drink water (which I did). So, I drank two glasses of water. Mistake. Because my stomach was so full and I felt nausaus I had to lie down for 1 hour before it went away. And I thought "Wow, maybe that's part of the reta, it makes you full in your stomach super fast" (I think this is not true now after one week, but more on this later).
Anyways, I fasted all of Thursday, and I thought I was gonna fast Friday as well, but lo and behold, I actually got hungry on Friday afternoon around 1pm. I was a bit disappointed as I had hoped to not feel the hunger. So, I ate. And because I was impatience of "not feeling hunger", I decided to inject myself with another 0.5 mg around 6 pm. Note that I ate reguarlary on this day, maybe 2500 kcal.
On Saturday I was also hungry and ate another 2500 kcal. I was a bit suspicious whether the reta was actually working.
On Sunday, I was starting to feel less hungry and ate only around 1500 kcal. Now i was a bit more optimistic about the reta, and also happy I took the extra 0.5mg on Friday.
Monday, not so hungry and ate 1000 kcal. By this time I was sure the reta was working. I knew now for sure that my chinese reta was not fake. Because I really did not have a food noise. However, you still get that "annoyance" that you get when you haven't eaten for long time. But, to be clear, it is not hunger pangs, or any feeling of food want or food noise or food craving or anything to do with food. But it was just that the body felt annoyed it didn't get food, which I recognized from when I had been dieting many times before in my life. But this feeling, you could just ignore. The only problem with this feeling is that you become lightly annoyed (which is why people snap at you when they are hungry). So, realistically, you could be on 0.5 mg every 3.5 days and have zero food noise and do a perfect deficit diet. However... if you eat, food taste damn fucking good... And you could easily eat more...
So, on Tuesday I decided to inject another 0.5 mg to keep the reta up and continue my deficit. And to no surprise, I felt very hungry on Tuesday and ate 2500 kcal.
Then 2000 kcal on wednesday.
Finally on Thursday we're back at 1500 kcal.
Now, today, on Friday, I have had 1500 kcal so far and it is 6:50 pm right now, so I will not eat more today. Also, I injected another 0.5 mg 50 minutes ago at 6 pm.
PLANS FORWARD
I plan to start upping the injections to 1.5 mg, or 0.75 mg twice a week. The reason for this is that for a few days in the week, I will "crack" and eat like 2000-2500 kcal. This is fine, because it is still maintenance, but I would like even more hardcore results so that I keep eating 1500 kcal ALL the time. And maybe even 1000 kcal sometimes. Yes, I know this is superhardcore and definitely not good for my muscles. But I am not so concerned about keeping muscles at this point.
That said, I think you definitely could do just 1 mg a week on reta and literally be able to lose weight slow and steady, say 0.7-1 lbs a week without food noise. So, in that sense, that's crazy amazing. Like, it's life changing actually.
However, for my case, I am going on a vacation till summer, so I want to lose as much as possible so I can be somewhat lean for the beach. I now, I now, I am a bit vain here. And honestly, I kinda regret having bought the ticket and hotels already, because otherwise I would be so happy doing just 1mg a week. That is why I think I will stop at 1.5 mg a week. Meaning, from next week I'll do 0.75 mg twice a week and just stay here for at least 3-4 weeks. Then see if I want to go up to 2 mg a week.
PLANS AFTER 4 WEEKS
Since the reta is obviously working, I have ordered (payment done today!) tesamorelin + ipamorelin. I am intending to start a 40 day protocol doing around 0.75-1mg tesamorelin and 0.3-0.4 mg ipamorelin stack nighlty 5 days a week with weekends off. That is also why I think maybe after 4 weeks I might have to up the reta to 2mg a week.
THANKS FOR READING!
I started on Wednesday, but I will keep my updates to Fridays. That mean, this first update is actually a bit more than a week long. But from next update (WEEK 2), it will be exactly one week long.
WEIGHT
On Wednesday last week I was 94.5 kg around 4pm. But I have since started weighing myself in the morning first thing right after taking a piss. Therefore, this first weighing is a bit misleading because you tend to weight 0.5-1kg less in the morning.
Last week: 94.5kg / 208.3 lbs
Now: 93.3kg / 205.7 lbs
Difference: -1.2kg / -2.7 lbs
PROTOCOL
0.5 mg reta Tuesday morning (6am ish)
0.5 mg reta Friday afternoon (6 pm ish)
The reason for this protocol is because I think it is better than dosing full once a week. Because the half-life is 6 days, why don't we split the dose into two times a week? Who is forcing us to do once a week, right?
But, actually, hehe, the main main reason was because I started on Wednesday last week with 0.5 mg (my first time using reta) and by Friday I was impatience for greater effect so I thought if I injected another 0.5 mg I'm still at just 1mg a week. But then I did some calculations and found out that if i split 7 days in half that's 3.5 days. So, each 3.5 days can be Friday afternoon and Tuesday morning (I know this can be a bit confusing but trust me, that's 3.5 days in between those times).
DIARY
I had zero idea what to expect taking reta 0.5 mg first time. After injecting on Wednesday evening, I decided to fast on Thursday. And surprisingly, it felt "easy". I wasn't so hungry! So I thought "Wow, the reta works already!". About half Thursday in, I had a massive headache, and I figured it was because I forgot to drink water (which I did). So, I drank two glasses of water. Mistake. Because my stomach was so full and I felt nausaus I had to lie down for 1 hour before it went away. And I thought "Wow, maybe that's part of the reta, it makes you full in your stomach super fast" (I think this is not true now after one week, but more on this later).
Anyways, I fasted all of Thursday, and I thought I was gonna fast Friday as well, but lo and behold, I actually got hungry on Friday afternoon around 1pm. I was a bit disappointed as I had hoped to not feel the hunger. So, I ate. And because I was impatience of "not feeling hunger", I decided to inject myself with another 0.5 mg around 6 pm. Note that I ate reguarlary on this day, maybe 2500 kcal.
On Saturday I was also hungry and ate another 2500 kcal. I was a bit suspicious whether the reta was actually working.
On Sunday, I was starting to feel less hungry and ate only around 1500 kcal. Now i was a bit more optimistic about the reta, and also happy I took the extra 0.5mg on Friday.
Monday, not so hungry and ate 1000 kcal. By this time I was sure the reta was working. I knew now for sure that my chinese reta was not fake. Because I really did not have a food noise. However, you still get that "annoyance" that you get when you haven't eaten for long time. But, to be clear, it is not hunger pangs, or any feeling of food want or food noise or food craving or anything to do with food. But it was just that the body felt annoyed it didn't get food, which I recognized from when I had been dieting many times before in my life. But this feeling, you could just ignore. The only problem with this feeling is that you become lightly annoyed (which is why people snap at you when they are hungry). So, realistically, you could be on 0.5 mg every 3.5 days and have zero food noise and do a perfect deficit diet. However... if you eat, food taste damn fucking good... And you could easily eat more...
So, on Tuesday I decided to inject another 0.5 mg to keep the reta up and continue my deficit. And to no surprise, I felt very hungry on Tuesday and ate 2500 kcal.
Then 2000 kcal on wednesday.
Finally on Thursday we're back at 1500 kcal.
Now, today, on Friday, I have had 1500 kcal so far and it is 6:50 pm right now, so I will not eat more today. Also, I injected another 0.5 mg 50 minutes ago at 6 pm.
PLANS FORWARD
I plan to start upping the injections to 1.5 mg, or 0.75 mg twice a week. The reason for this is that for a few days in the week, I will "crack" and eat like 2000-2500 kcal. This is fine, because it is still maintenance, but I would like even more hardcore results so that I keep eating 1500 kcal ALL the time. And maybe even 1000 kcal sometimes. Yes, I know this is superhardcore and definitely not good for my muscles. But I am not so concerned about keeping muscles at this point.
That said, I think you definitely could do just 1 mg a week on reta and literally be able to lose weight slow and steady, say 0.7-1 lbs a week without food noise. So, in that sense, that's crazy amazing. Like, it's life changing actually.
However, for my case, I am going on a vacation till summer, so I want to lose as much as possible so I can be somewhat lean for the beach. I now, I now, I am a bit vain here. And honestly, I kinda regret having bought the ticket and hotels already, because otherwise I would be so happy doing just 1mg a week. That is why I think I will stop at 1.5 mg a week. Meaning, from next week I'll do 0.75 mg twice a week and just stay here for at least 3-4 weeks. Then see if I want to go up to 2 mg a week.
PLANS AFTER 4 WEEKS
Since the reta is obviously working, I have ordered (payment done today!) tesamorelin + ipamorelin. I am intending to start a 40 day protocol doing around 0.75-1mg tesamorelin and 0.3-0.4 mg ipamorelin stack nighlty 5 days a week with weekends off. That is also why I think maybe after 4 weeks I might have to up the reta to 2mg a week.
THANKS FOR READING!
Thank you for sharing your protocol. I am just starting Reta and looking to do a recomp more than weight loss. On TRT 140mg a week. Very interested in how you do on your Tesa/Ipamorelin stack.
According to YouTube people you should do 60-90 days. And you should do 5 days on 2 days off. For instance Monday to Friday, then no injections Saturday and Sunday.MTSpace said:
The ratio should be either 2:1 or 3:1 favoring tesamorelin. Meaning you’re always talking about tesamorelin first, so 1mg of tesamorelin then 0.5mg of ipa (2:1) or 1mg of tesamorelin and 0.33mg of ipa (3:1).
They recommend 1-2mg nightly before sleep, and no food at least 3 hours before the injection. I think the studies they use around 1.4 mg. I intend to do 1mg.
Everyone is going to have different protocols (which is fine) but I run Tesa/Ipa slightly differently.longestyards said:
I'm running:
6 Month cycle
7 days a week (the whole 5 on 2 off thing is largely for cost saving and doesn't have much by way of clinical evidence)
2mg Tesa/200mcg Ipa per dose
I'd worry with the lower end of that range (60 days) you wouldn't see much by way of improvement. As I say though, nothing is "wrong" and everyone can work out what works best for them depending on goals/finances/starting position etc.
EDIT to add - Great Reta journal btw, will be following to see how you go!
Yep I remember they said 60-90 days to see results. The reason I’m stopping after 40 is because I’m going to a vacation for 6 weeks after. But I’ll get back on a 90+ protocol after that. The reason most YouTubers cite 5/2 is that they say the 2 days allow the body to “rest” such that it doesn’t become too resistant or something. In any case, most of the report doing 5/2 and seeing results so that’s good enough for me for now.Abrakebabra said:
How has the tesa + ipa worked for you? Do you run it with reta? Results?
true! I was thinking staying below 2mg a week for at least a 4 weeks. But I started at 1mg so I was thinking possibly titrating up to 1.5 mg already this week. But then definitely staying at 1.5 until end of month. The reason is, even though the food noise is mostly gone, I still somehow can overeat quite easily…Rezwalker said:
I'm doing Reta 4mg/wk and Tesa 1mg/day 5on/2off. I did not start Tesa right away. But now believe I could have. Matters not. I am down to 198 pounds (90kg) as of this AM! I can't believe it. At my peak, I was 262 pounds (119kg). I want to be around 190.
I'm not having issues with overeating. I do feel guilty for eating as much as I do, and that's a weird thing. Even so, the weight continues to melt off. By the month I did 2mg/wk, 3, 4, 5, 4.
I'm not having issues with overeating. I do feel guilty for eating as much as I do, and that's a weird thing. Even so, the weight continues to melt off. By the month I did 2mg/wk, 3, 4, 5, 4.
很高兴听到这个消息！我觉得我有点吃多了，因为我指望Reta帮我解决所有问题，所以只要我稍微有点烦躁，就会吃东西。我得改掉这个毛病，好好利用这段没有食物噪音的时间，对自己更严格一些。我一直在思考这个问题，所以我给自己打气，从现在开始要严格控制自己。比如，允许自己稍微烦躁一下，真正充分利用Reta。它本来就不是用来帮我解决所有问题的。cujet said:
你开始服用Tesa和只服用Reta之后，感觉有什么实际区别吗？
应该暂停用药 4 周。应该。Rezwalker said:
如果用户感觉效果不如预期怎么办？您认为他们是否应该至少继续服用4周？FlowerFairy said:
第二周更新：
我对目前的进展非常不满意，虽然没有食欲，但却很饿！即使我不刻意想吃东西，也会感到饥饿，而且一旦吃上，味道就非常好，我可以像平时一样吃很多（几乎）。
我认为这是因为我的剂量太低，每周只有1毫克。所以，我决定增加到每周2毫克，这是临床试验中效果最佳的起始剂量（减重约24%-26%）。我还决定每周注射一次，因为试验中也是这么做的。
体重：
上周：93.3公斤/205.7磅；
现在：94.3公斤/207.9磅；
变化：+1公斤/+2.2磅。
体重反弹真是太奇怪了。我不太确定是怎么回事，但我觉得我的腹部脂肪好像减少了一些，看起来更紧致了。所以，我不知道该如何解读这些数据，但这可能只是水分波动。
方案：
周五下午（今天下午6点左右）服用2.0毫克利他林。日记
：
周六和周日饮食正常，但两天都摄入了3000千卡，这太多了。周一只摄入了1000千卡，这很奇怪地少。周二摄入了1500千卡，感觉还可以。周三摄入了2000千卡，虽然还可以，但有点超标。周四和今天（周五）摄入了2500千卡，这不合适，因为这基本上是我的维持体重所需的热量。
未来计划：
我希望服用2毫克利他林3-4周。我希望这2毫克能真正让我持续少吃，帮助我减肥。因为现在，一周7天里有4天我基本上都正常饮食！长期来看这当然是好事，但这并不“容易”。所以，希望这2毫克能让减肥变得“更容易”一些。
我对目前的进展非常不满意，虽然没有食欲，但却很饿！即使我不刻意想吃东西，也会感到饥饿，而且一旦吃上，味道就非常好，我可以像平时一样吃很多（几乎）。
我认为这是因为我的剂量太低，每周只有1毫克。所以，我决定增加到每周2毫克，这是临床试验中效果最佳的起始剂量（减重约24%-26%）。我还决定每周注射一次，因为试验中也是这么做的。
体重：
上周：93.3公斤/205.7磅；
现在：94.3公斤/207.9磅；
变化：+1公斤/+2.2磅。
体重反弹真是太奇怪了。我不太确定是怎么回事，但我觉得我的腹部脂肪好像减少了一些，看起来更紧致了。所以，我不知道该如何解读这些数据，但这可能只是水分波动。
方案：
周五下午（今天下午6点左右）服用2.0毫克利他林。日记
：
周六和周日饮食正常，但两天都摄入了3000千卡，这太多了。周一只摄入了1000千卡，这很奇怪地少。周二摄入了1500千卡，感觉还可以。周三摄入了2000千卡，虽然还可以，但有点超标。周四和今天（周五）摄入了2500千卡，这不合适，因为这基本上是我的维持体重所需的热量。
未来计划：
我希望服用2毫克利他林3-4周。我希望这2毫克能真正让我持续少吃，帮助我减肥。因为现在，一周7天里有4天我基本上都正常饮食！长期来看这当然是好事，但这并不“容易”。所以，希望这2毫克能让减肥变得“更容易”一些。
.2 might be fine for week 1. 2 weeks for me, .5mg is all I need. Total control of food intake.longestyards said:
That’s awesome to hear cause that’s so cheap lolgimmeshelter said:
So, you've done 2 weeks at 2mg?
Nope, I’ve started at 1mg for first week then 1.5mg second week. At the start of their week now I am at 2mg, one injection on Friday. The reason is because the results haven’t been as good as I expected. So, instead of doing my own protocol, I’ll follow whatever protocol is done in the trials which is 2mg for 4 weeks, then double up to 4mg after that. One injection weekly.BNLFL said:
Same, but at 6 now with 6mg. Seems to still be working.longestyards said:
Hi, where are you currently based at? Im at the center (Oslo) where customs are the strictest in Norway. Wondering because im worried that they would seize my packages. + consequences etc. etc.longestyards said:
That’s good to hear. I definitely know it’s working tooBNLFL said:
im in Norway as well. I was also very concerned about that but it seemed to have come through fine for me.Itamah said:
hi,
Nice post, very detailed.
Can you tell me what kind of hunger you’re feeling? Do you have a diet plan?
I started Reta at 0.5 once a week, then split it into 2 doses of 0.25. My sweet spot ended up being 3 doses of 0.25. My body usually starts adapting after about 3 weeks, and then I increase each dose by another 0.25. This way, I can control hunger, reduce food noise, and still get the benefits from glucagon.
I have a strict diet plan with 4 meals per day. When it gets close to mealtime, I get hungry too (not impulsive hunger) and when i eat it stops. Maybe having fixed times to eat will help you too.
Reta don't have this huge supress appetite like others, and thats why is better... your body needs eat to get energy and preserve mass
Nice post, very detailed.
Can you tell me what kind of hunger you’re feeling? Do you have a diet plan?
I started Reta at 0.5 once a week, then split it into 2 doses of 0.25. My sweet spot ended up being 3 doses of 0.25. My body usually starts adapting after about 3 weeks, and then I increase each dose by another 0.25. This way, I can control hunger, reduce food noise, and still get the benefits from glucagon.
I have a strict diet plan with 4 meals per day. When it gets close to mealtime, I get hungry too (not impulsive hunger) and when i eat it stops. Maybe having fixed times to eat will help you too.
Reta don't have this huge supress appetite like others, and thats why is better... your body needs eat to get energy and preserve mass
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