Cincinnati CBP seized $3.5 million in counterfeit pharma

[BooneDonk]

"Dozens of area law enforcement spouses achieve amazing weight loss together, film at 11."

 

[MsGizmo]

So thinking slightly differently about this - does anyone have evidence (be it CBP statements or just anecdotally or hearsay) that certain shipments are more vulnerable to seizure than others? For example, sema and tirz are big pharma cash cows under brand names, but most non GLP1’s are not. So are the grey GLP’s a higher viz target? Or are the others equally at risk because of their non FDA approved status?

I’m asking because I want to place an order for reta, NAD, KLOW, Kiss10 and igf. But if I leave out the reta and igf (assuming they would be higher priority seizure targets??), would the others have a good chance to make it through ok?

Or am I giving our Federal authorities too much credit and the reality is much simpler - they’ll seize it all and claim it’s all HGH/AAS/PED’s??

Thoughts?

The question we need to ask is how much extra did this week long investigation cost. How many extra man hours did it take to locate and inspect all the packages involved. Because I don't think they targeted any particular substance .. they x-rayed the packages and looked for vials and injection pens. I do think that they wanted the GLP-1 drugs the most .. but all vials look the same on an x-ray.

 

[thecook]

Some of the products seized.

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Who buys 30 kits of R15? Was that a reseller or warehouse?

 

[ZippityDooDah]

Who buys 30 kits of R15? Was that a reseller or warehouse?

Someone with a desire to stock up?

A husband, wife, and sister who went in together to buy a couple of years' worth each?

Resellers buy hundreds of kits at a time.

 

[latviantower]

The question we need to ask is how much extra did this week long investigation cost. How many extra man hours did it take to locate and inspect all the packages involved. Because I don't think they targeted any particular substance .. they x-rayed the packages and looked for vials and injection pens. I do think that they wanted the GLP-1 drugs the most .. but all vials look the same on an x-ray.

Does the government care about enforcement costs? Or just good headlines? Even their BP masters totally understand these seizure numbers are a barely visible fraction of a percent of a giant gray iceberg. But it sounds really good on the news.

 

[mlke6]

I just can't imagine being the people who this order belongs to seeing this on the news. Hopefully they get a reship.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

Does the government care about enforcement costs? Or just good headlines? Even their BP masters totally understand these seizure numbers are a barely visible fraction of a percent of a giant gray iceberg. But it sounds really good on the news.

Let's tellem great job and u best slow down cuz ur family loves you.... u have 3 weeks vacation so use it. Just chill, ur running too hard. Glp1's are not the enemy.

 

[byefatlicia]

These agents are most likely saying "Why in the world are we shifting our focus away from fentanyl to this?" Already knowing from people in their own circles how beneficial these drugs are.

 

[AndyPanda]

Does the government care about enforcement costs? Or just good headlines? Even their BP masters totally understand these seizure numbers are a barely visible fraction of a percent of a giant gray iceberg. But it sounds really good on the news.

No. They don’t care about costs. They have such generous budgets that at the end of the fiscal year they will have an opportunity for leftover money from their budget. Rather than return the money and risk losing that amount the following year, they spend it on stupid expensive shit like Oakley sunglasses and backpacks. Top dollar pocketknives. Whatever “tacticool” gadget is the flavor of the month. Then they hand said junk out to agents to keep.

Also, all of the bump helmets, NVGs, plate carriers and military style gear they are wearing is brand new. The only people at ICE, HSI, CBP, BP who used to get that were the guys on special teams like HRT and BORTAC, who are all well trained to use it.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

No. They don’t care about costs. They have such generous budgets that at the end of the fiscal year they will have an opportunity for leftover money from their budget. Rather than return the money and risk losing that amount the following year, they spend it on stupid expensive shit like Oakley sunglasses and backpacks. Top dollar pocketknives. Whatever “tacticool” gadget is the flavor of the month. Then they hand said junk out to agents to keep.

Also, all of the bump helmets, NVGs, plate carriers and military style gear they are wearing is brand new. The only people at ICE, HSI, CBP, BP who used to get that were the guys on special teams like HRT and BORTAC, who are all well trained to use it.

They don't make a lot but Google said it's absolutely the norm to pull another 45k in overtime! You could be happily married and support a girlfriend and drug addiction on the side.... wait. Are Oakleys still in? I remember the special forces guys always had 160 dollar Oakley in the 90's..... I won't spend more than 15 cuz I go through a pair every 3 weeks.

 

[AndyPanda]

They don't make a lot but Google said it's absolutely the norm to pull another 45k in overtime! You could be happily married and support a girlfriend and drug addiction on the side.... wait. Are Oakleys still in? I remember the special forces guys always had 160 dollar Oakley in the 90's..... I won't spend more than 15 cuz I go through a pair every 3 weeks.

The 1811 series jobs make great money. They go noncompetitive to GS-12, get 25% for Administratively Uncontrollable Overtime, Law Enforcement Available Pay, Overtime, FLSA. I retired in 2016 and was pulling about $150k not including all of the per diem.

 

[latviantower]

I well remember end of the fiscal year during my Air Force career - the squadron had to spend down everything - one year we bought artificial potted ficus trees for the building lobby and an $800 theater popcorn machine for the lounge. And we had a heck of a Christmas party prepaid in September with last year’s funds.

 

[mlke6]

These agents are most likely saying "Why in the world are we shifting our focus away from fentanyl to this?" Already knowing from people in their own circles how beneficial these drugs are.

I didn't even think of it from that perspective.

 

[AndyPanda]

These agents are most likely saying "Why in the world are we shifting our focus away from fentanyl to this?" Already knowing from people in their own circles how beneficial these drugs are.

I agree fentanyl is a huge problem. I think different ports of entry have different priorities based on where most of their freight originates.

 

[Needsalife]

The USA has always been faster to hurt its own people than help them.

The list of highest incarceration per capita summarizes our issues neatly.

El Salvador : 1,659 per 100,000

Cuba : 794 per 100,000

Rwanda : 620 per 100,000

Turkmenistan : 576 per 100,000

United States : 541 per 100,000

On the low end...

Japan : 36 per 100,000

Germany : 67 per 100,000

Norway : 53 per 100,000

There are two ways to look at this information and neither is an uplifting conclusion.

If we believe that a nation like Norway has a reasonable incarceration rate, why is America's 10x higher? Ten times!

If our 10x rate is reasonable then we are a nation of monsters .

On the other hand, if Americans aren't that different than Norwegians, then we have a massive over-policing problem.

Even if the truth is somewhere in between, say Norway is under-policing by several times, the USA still looks insane .

If grey GLP-1 meds start taking real money out of pharma's pocket, today's news could be just the beginning.

Be careful. There is a large system out to get you. Don't be the easiest target.

“We’re monsters” was the answer. Our society is ugly. People are hateful, disrespectful and dirty. Walk down a street in Japan and you’ll see the difference immediately. It’s a different culture. The norms are different.

 

[tncc_rn]

“We’re monsters” was the answer. Our society is ugly. People are hateful, disrespectful and dirty. Walk down a street in Japan and you’ll see the difference immediately. It’s a different culture. The norms are different.

^^^^ understands the average homosapien ^^^^

 

[tncc_rn]

The 1811 series jobs make great money. They go noncompetitive to GS-12, get 25% for Administratively Uncontrollable Overtime, Law Enforcement Available Pay, Overtime, FLSA. I retired in 2016 and was pulling about $150k not including all of the per diem.

I'm pulling down $200k+ a year as a Level II RN in the ER for the V.A.

Don't ask me how, cuz even I can't figure it out.

 

[AndyPanda]

I'm pulling down $200k+ a year as a Level II RN in the ER for the V.A.

Don't ask me how, cuz even I can't figure it out.

I abhor going to the VA. Everything is way more complicated than it should be. You deserve every penny of that money.

 

[G Vice]

The 1811 series jobs make great money. They go noncompetitive to GS-12, get 25% for Administratively Uncontrollable Overtime, Law Enforcement Available Pay, Overtime, FLSA. I retired in 2016 and was pulling about $150k not including all of the per diem.

My son does cyber in the Navy in the NSA, and he decided not to re-enlist and wants to transition to this type of employment arrangement. Unfortunately, there is a hiring freeze currently.

 

[latviantower]

I abhor going to the VA. Everything is way more complicated than it should be. You deserve every penny of that money.

Amen brother! I resort to the VA only when I absolutely have to. Luckily that’s pretty much never. Our local facility? Great employees with all the life sucked out of them by regulations and infinite layers of bureaucracy smothering their drive and initiative.