Best weight loss peps that are not GLPs?

[mybodyisasewer]

I am on 250mcg CJC1295/Ipamorelin and 7.5mg reta.

I tried BAM 15 by injection just a few days ago....first day 25mg, then 5mg next day because 25mg gave me a such a bad heart palpitation. Supposdely it should not cause body thermal effect or palpitation unlike DNP, but then again there has not been any clinical study, IDK.

I had the worst fatigue yesterday, a day after pinning 5mg BAM 15. Now, I dno't know if it was BAM 15 that caused it because my mom just happend to be sick from cold but I ddn't have any cold symptoms, and my resting heartrate was 120 (!) from the morning until like 5PM.

I don't know if it was a coincidence, but this morning after a BM, I lost 2lb compared to yesterday. I know it's not water weight because I always weight myself in the morning after BM.

Damn dude that is a reckless dosing protocol. You couldn't start with 1mg and work your way up slowly to try and make sense of it? I've been thinking about bam15 and honestly your account here makes me want to try it even more because apparently it works.

 

[domin8brix]

You can try Cagri but start SUUUUPER low, like the TINIEST dose possible because that will hit you like a truck.

Unfortunately, I think you're going to encounter some form of anhedonia with any of these, since you are basically trying to numb those reward pathways by killing the majority of your appetite.

Depending on your weight/bmi/other conditions, you might also want to look into bariatric surgery, which is a more permanent option than injectibles.

 

[Smiter]

I am on 250mcg CJC1295/Ipamorelin and 7.5mg reta.

I tried BAM 15 by injection just a few days ago....first day 25mg, then 5mg next day because 25mg gave me a such a bad heart palpitation. Supposdely it should not cause body thermal effect or palpitation unlike DNP, but then again there has not been any clinical study, IDK.

I had the worst fatigue yesterday, a day after pinning 5mg BAM 15. Now, I dno't know if it was BAM 15 that caused it because my mom just happend to be sick from cold but I ddn't have any cold symptoms, and my resting heartrate was 120 (!) from the morning until like 5PM.

I don't know if it was a coincidence, but this morning after a BM, I lost 2lb compared to yesterday. I know it's not water weight because I always weight myself in the morning after BM.

I was already forced to do a PhD in fibrology. Now some1 just forced me to pursue BAM-15 as well.

 

[Smiter]

you might also want to look into bariatric surgery, which is a more permanent option than injectibles.

I second this, with one caveat. Make sure that the surgeon agrees to do a cruroplasty as well, to avoid most of the heartburn, GERD problems that might arise.

 

[domin8brix]

I second this, with one caveat. Make sure that the surgeon agrees to do a cruroplasty as well, to avoid most of the heartburn, GERD problems that might arise.

I had that done with mine, but mine was vicious before surgery. I am still on a medicine for it but it's far less strong than the one I was on for years prior to my surgery. And I have reduced it since.

 

[lastresort]

Damn dude that is a reckless dosing protocol. You couldn't start with 1mg and work your way up slowly to try and make sense of it? I've been thinking about bam15 and honestly your account here makes me want to try it even more because apparently it works.

In my defense, there is a subreddit called r/BAM15 just to discuss BAM 15, and people there ar taking anywhere between 100-200mg per day by oral. Now, I bought an oil suspension that was 50mg/mL, and I really didn't want to mess with this because I read a few horror stories about DNP, and I thought if I overdose a research compound thati s not even tested for humans yet I will endanger myself. The lowest dosage I saw was 25mg, so that's why I did that....all the "protocosl" are completely made up with no real science behind it, and there is no data on oral bioavailability so I can't convert oral dosage to injection dosage either.

I just injected 0.2mL, or 1mg, which is 1/5th of what I tried two days ago. I can immediately feel some thermic effects.

I was already forced to do a PhD in fibrology. Now some1 just forced me to pursue BAM-15 as well.

Careful there.

 

[Smiter]

I just took one puff of the salbutamol inhaler, my very first dose. I took it 30 minutes ago. About 5 minutes earlier, I started experiencing a very mild clarity, and a very slight increase in energy. Each of the puffs is supposedly at 100mcg strength. I will report on future changes if and when they happen.

 

[lastresort]

I just took one puff of the salbutamol inhaler, my very first dose. I took it 30 minutes ago. About 5 minutes earlier, I started experiencing a very mild clarity, and a very slight increase in energy. Each of the puffs is supposedly at 100mcg strength. I will report on future changes if and when they happen.

A guy I know told me it's a safer and more tolerable version of clenbuterol. I m going to try it next month.

 

[quicksilver80]

Been also trying to push the needle past this stall. Hasn't been fun. 2.5 weeks and it has been a battle. -2 +2 - 2 +2 any more ideas that arent heart intense or anxiety enducing? Had a weird experience with niacin/epicatechin/6mg rt. Think it was the niacin. Wasnt exactly my heart beating fast but it was like a feeling of dread and flushing when i stood up for a day and a half. Just under my rib cage dead center. Stopped niacin and dropped 1mg of reta and it stopped. I was eating my calorie deficit and wasnt missing anything so i know it wasnt intake or water. Been sensitive to caffiene so it might have not helped. More ideas welcomed.

 

[Galapagosfit]

I just took one puff of the salbutamol inhaler, my very first dose. I took it 30 minutes ago. About 5 minutes earlier, I started experiencing a very mild clarity, and a very slight increase in energy. Each of the puffs is supposedly at 100mcg strength. I will report on future changes if and when they happen.

my small little search on Ai tell me that the inhaler do almost nothing compare to the oral version who is more systemic and higher dosage. I want to try a blend of fat burner (Nordic flames)(50mg caffeine, 5mg albuterol(salbutamol), 5mg yohimbine) for the 2-3 last week of my cut. but i'm just beginning searching. I just want to be cautious about the anxiety sensation who comes with it. have you ever try yohimbine or the oral salbutamol?

 

[Rezwalker]

my small little search on Ai tell me that the inhaler do almost nothing compare to the oral version who is more systemic and higher dosage. I want to try a blend of fat burner (Nordic flames)(50mg caffeine, 5mg albuterol(salbutamol), 5mg yohimbine) for the 2-3 last week of my cut. but i'm just beginning searching. I just want to be cautious about the anxiety sensation who comes with it. have you ever try yohimbine or the oral salbutamol?

Reste sur la reta avec une bonne diet et gym

sert a rien d'aller plus vite

 

[birdwhacker]

BAM15 and SLU-PP-332 are big ones, they're not tested on humans that I am aware of, and they also don't need to be pinned. You want them sold as powders or in a solution as neither are peptides.

MotsC and tesa have obviously been mentioned, running HGH will be more effective but requires mor research on your part. And since both of these reduce fatigue from exercise you'd be foolish to expect to lose on them the same way you might sit around on a GLP.

AOD doesn't work.

Obviously you need to look into cutting and refeeding and do cardio.

Alternatively, run an ECA stack (ephedrine, caffeine, and aspirin or a comparable vasodilator). You can get ephedrine at the pharmacy, it's behind the counter sold as bronk aid.

 

[birdwhacker]

Reste sur la reta avec une bonne diet et gym

sert a rien d'aller plus vite

What the frog said. Go to le gym!

 

[birdwhacker]

In the early 2000's I had one of my most successful training/weight loss sessions on clen without any issues. I even competed in tournaments while under clen influence. The output difference is staggering. I know so many folks who have used clen without any issues, but I know one person who collapsed on the field after taking a 25mg dose. I used 40mg. He was 65kgs, while I was 120 then.

Milligrams? That's crazy, I'm hearing doses of like max 200mcg per day.

I'm gonna pick some up next month. I always thought clen was an anabolic steroid.

 

[birdwhacker]

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As with most overdoses, this was an uneducated user taking an unknown substance in unknown doses and not supplementing to support it.

The legal issues don't concern me in the slightest.

It's not for everyone, and it's not to be taken lightly, but clen isn't exactly "smoking PCP" level dangerous. Doctors will happily prescribe you phentermine without being upfront with the risks.

 

[Rezwalker]

Milligrams? That's crazy, I'm hearing doses of like max 200mcg per day.

I'm gonna pick some up next month. I always thought clen was an anabolic steroid.

Clen is a horse medication ...

 

[birdwhacker]

Clen is a horse medication ...

Zomg just like heckin' ketamine!

I think the better argument against clen is the fact that it destroys your heart and electrolyte balance while jacking up your blood pressure, rather than the fact that someone gave it to a horse at one point.

 

[Rezwalker]

Zomg just like heckin' ketamine!

I think the better argument against clen is the fact that it destroys your heart and electrolyte balance while jacking up your blood pressure, rather than the fact that someone gave it to a horse at one point.

wouldnt touch ketamine with a 10 foot pole tho

heck you can slim down using cocain and crack if you like

might be even faster than any glp1 out there

and smoking cig too on top of it

 

[birdwhacker]

wouldnt touch ketamine with a 10 foot pole tho

heck you can slim down using cocain and crack if you like

might be even faster than any glp1 out there

and smoking cig too on top of it

Hey if I sent you some cash do you think you could mail me a can of horse meat?

 

[LongevitybroTX]

If not GLP1s, then you may as well go with small molecules; shit like buproprion, naltrexone, phentermine, etc.