Beating the Dead Horse

[Occindemure]

I would schedule a DEXA scan to get baselines.

You probably lost a ton of water/Glycogen right off the bat, so you need to know what you are actually working with.

The scale can only tell you so much

 

[Airborne Daddy]

I’ve paid a couple times by sugar nights and Reta definitely makes me feel like crap afterwards.

Overall been eating pretty clean, but food noise is there more now then when I started ..

Add a mg of sema.... its so cheap

 

[Habibibi]

Stop the ipamorelin, it's a grelin agonist. It's literally working against retatrutide. I would also stop tesamorelin if you don't have a smart scale to see the water weight it's adding.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

Stop the ipamorelin, it's a grelin agonist. It's literally working against retatrutide. I would also stop tesamorelin if you don't have a smart scale to see the water weight it's adding.

Im at end of 2 weeks tesa 2mg m-f.... 1st week gained 3lbs and ill see tommorow when i weigh in where im at.... same will happen if you add test or hgh.... test i put on about 10lbs first month then started to come down about month 3.

 

[woundcarping]

Im at end of 2 weeks tesa 2mg m-f.... 1st week gained 3lbs and ill see tommorow when i weigh in where im at.... same will happen if you add test or hgh.... test i put on about 10lbs first month then started to come down about month 3.

I gained 3lb overnight 15 days after starting TRT. It took 9 days to hold a new low. I bought an Oura Ring on day 11 of TRT, it didn't fit the finger 5 days later. 16 days after the jump and it still doesn't fit that finger but I'm 4lb lighter than I was before the jump.

I'm expecting that 3lb to shed in the next month or two; I'd be delighted for it to have be a sneaky tenner of water weight!

 

[Main75]

If you stall or flatline, there are really only two options, in my opinion...

Up the cardio or eat less calories.

How intense is cardio for you?

Could add in MOTS-C or run some old school fat loss stacks before cardio to make it a lil more intense.

But that depends on how you handle stimulants...

TESA will add water weight, so maybe once you cycle off TESA, you may become flatter, but the scale may move a little once cycling off.

cardio is there but not extreme 30 minutes 5 times a week on some machine.

been trying to lower inflammation and drop more weight to avoid aggravating some lingering injuries, so i am staying low impact until all my magic peptides fix everything. Hydrating , protein 150 (this gets hard for sure) , solid sleep schedule (tessa helped but Glycine does as well) , ghk-cu (daily) , bp 157 and tb-500 (just started)

Add a mg of sema.... its so cheap

probably need a little something ill try it

 

[Main75]

How are you tracking those calories? So many people underestimate how many they consume. Ask me how I know.

MY BASIC PROTIEN PLAN

*Its the same until noon every day

5 eggs (6 grams protein per egg and 60 calories = 30 gram protein and 300 calories)

Before noon Protein shake ( 2 scoops in 16 OZ water with some ice cubes = 60 grams protein and 240 Calories)

- afternoon Protein shake ( 2 scoops in 16 OZ water with some ice cubes = 60 grams protein and 240 Calories)

- Dinner430:530pm - something/anything with a meat base (hoping for 20 plus grams protein

TOTAL FOR ME = 170 grams protein & 1600 calories (probably more like 2000 with some cheating )

*****if you want something else HAVE it but i think you will be full

****take GLYCINE in evening at some point

 

[Airborne Daddy]

I gained 3lb overnight 15 days after starting TRT. It took 9 days to hold a new low. I bought an Oura Ring on day 11 of TRT, it didn't fit the finger 5 days later. 16 days after the jump and it still doesn't fit that finger but I'm 4lb lighter than I was before the jump.

I'm expecting that 3lb to shed in the next month or two; I'd be delighted for it to have be a sneaky tenner of water weight!

I think youll get back down. In mid may ill run a cycle of test250/tren 250 and already know ill gain 15lbs then lose it after.... meso hammered me saying my diet must be shit to gain weight on tren but its the test. Trt dose is 120mg for me so if i more than double i know its coming.

 

[Main75]

Hopefully you get back down. In mid may ill run a cycle of test250/tren 250 and already know ill gain 15lbs then lose it after.... meso hammered me saying my diet must be shit to gain weight on tren but its the test. Trt dose is 120mg for me so if i more than double i knoe its coming.

I may b e boarding the TRT train soon. I just hate being tied to something forever.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

I may b e boarding the TRT train soon. I just hate being tied to something forever.

I did it twice for a year to 18months and would come off a year or so. Not real smart but still recovered in my 50's....after 3 weeks off test i start clomid 50mg a day for 6 weeks and get my test back to 450ish.

 

[Main75]

I did it twice for a year to 18months and would come off a year or so. Not real smart but still recovered in my 50's....after 3 weeks off test i start clomid 50mg a day for 6 weeks and get my test back to 450ish.

yeah ballpark values right now ..4 months ago 503 & 89 free , then a month ago 382 & 60 free then 15 days later retested 550 & 81 free ...all three tests were same time in the morning....not a clue

estradiol has definitely lowered .. not a clue

hostly been F*c*ing off for the past five years zero doctors vistis until last october for blood work

 

[woundcarping]

My last test before getting a prescription was 232ng/dl. ~5 years ago it was 262ng/dl.

 

[Main75]

My last test before getting a prescription was 232ng/dl. ~5 years ago it was 262ng/dl.

i dont feel so back now. i believ i was 650 about 5 years ago....grew a beard at 11 years old type of stuff

 

[woundcarping]

i dont feel so back now. i believ i was 650 about 5 years ago....grew a beard at 11 years old type of stuff

I had chest har and shaved in middle school I don’t remember the grades.

Maybe it was all the microplastics or something. I’m glad to have found SQ TRT.

 

[Twowheelr2]

Yep seems the don’t think about food much left just before Christmas at around 5mg …I’ve increased to the max dose 12mg but never have had the food noise gone as much as it once was

Tirzepatide is better at suppressing appetite than sema or Reta, I’ve heard.

 

[Main75]

I had chest har and shaved in middle school I don’t remember the grades.

Maybe it was all the microplastics or something. I’m glad to have found SQ TRT.

several friends swear by TRT i think one of the few hold outs.... i like idea of a motorcycle ride though south america or sailing the mediterranean and not taking a shot....hate being permanently tied down like that

 

[Main75]

Tirzepatide is better at suppressing appetite than sema or Reta, I’ve heard.

ok , so it seems these three are the triz, sema or cagri...are the add ons for RETA if hunger is still and issue...

what are the pro and cons of those as stacks?

 

[woundcarping]

several friends swear by TRT i think one of the few hold outs.... i like idea of a motorcycle ride though south america or sailing the mediterranean and not taking a shot....hate being permanently tied down like that

Chances are, either GLP or weight gain will be some variety of habitual…

 

[Main75]

Chances are, either GLP or weight gain will be some variety of habitual…

We shall see…kinda view the weight loss journey and habit forming. Started with a 5 day fast and two meals a day in August and added glp in October .. after loosing 8 lbs at the start

 

[aRareUnicorn]

I have noticed that, while counterintuitive, if I eat more calories or increase my carbs, the weight starts moving down again! This happened a few times to me during extended stalls…

Reta supposedly works better with carbs, maybe try an extra serving or two?