BAC水 vs 氯化钠水 vs 苯甲醇 vs ??? :)

[kpake]

大家好，我是新来的。这是我花了大约两周时间深入研究后的第一篇帖子。我还在学习，但真心想掌握所有知识！

我刚开始通过远程医疗医生使用0.5毫克司美格鲁肽，但正在认真考虑换成瑞塔。为此，我一直在研究最佳的配制方法，一开始我以为用普通的BAC水就行。但最近我看到一些资料说0.9%的氯化钠溶液可能更好，因为它能减轻刺痛感。然后我又看到有人说“只要含有苯甲醇……”，现在我彻底糊涂了。

如果哪位经验更丰富的朋友能分享一下他们的见解或者推荐一些他们屡试不爽的方法，我将不胜感激。如果能尽量减少疼痛就更好了，哈哈。提前非常感谢！

 

[moonpies4misfits]

苯甲醇是BAC水的主要成分。

我对氯化钠一无所知，所以无法就此发表意见。

 

[kpake]

苯甲醇是BAC水的主要成分。

我对氯化钠一无所知，所以无法就此发表意见。

嘿，感谢你的回复。我明白了。所以，从你的角度来看……使用杀菌水是合理的/正确的选择吗？

 

[Jack brown]

大家好，我是新来的。这是我花了大约两周时间深入研究后的第一篇帖子。我还在学习，但真心想掌握所有知识！

我刚开始通过远程医疗医生使用0.5毫克司美格鲁肽，但正在认真考虑换成瑞塔。为此，我一直在研究最佳的配制方法，一开始我以为用普通的BAC水就行。但最近我看到一些资料说0.9%的氯化钠溶液可能更好，因为它能减轻刺痛感。然后我又看到有人说“只要含有苯甲醇……”，现在我彻底糊涂了。

如果哪位经验更丰富的朋友能分享一下他们的见解或者推荐一些他们屡试不爽的方法，我将不胜感激。如果能尽量减少疼痛就更好了，哈哈。提前非常感谢！

我试过用生理盐水，刺痛感稍微减轻了一些。不过，你可以通过增加BAC水的稀释度来减轻刺痛感。而且，一旦用生理盐水复溶，就必须尽快使用，因为它保存时间不长，很容易变质。如果你觉得刺痛感太强，可以试试3毫升BAC水/10毫克Reta溶液。

 

[moonpies4misfits]

Hey, I appreciate your response. That makes sense. So, from your perspective .... BAC water makes sense/is the way to go?

It's what the majority of people use, aside from some certain peps that may require other types of waters for various reasons, but I haven't delved into any of those yet. For GLPs BAC is pretty standard.

 

[kpake]

GOT IT. It seems like standard BAC is the most versatile as well, so full steam ahead on Plan A. Thanks for your expertise, @moonpies4misfits and @Jack brown.

 

[stickfigure]

If getting Sodium Chloride, make sure it's Hospira BAC Sodium Chloride (green lid) - it contains BA just like regular purple lid bac. Not all peptides are compatible with Sodium Chloride, but it does cause less sting with IM injections for things like Botox. For subq I don't think there is much of a difference, unless the pH of the peptide is way off

 

[TooBigtoFail]

I recently switched to Hospira Saline Bac with Benzyl (yes, the lime/green cap) as 'research'. I noticed that Novo and Lilly use an isotonic mixture for their glp1, which has Nacl. Why would they waste $$ adding saline? More resilient during transport? As they ship recon, maybe it helps shelf life? So far, no noticeable difference of any kind for glp1, ghk-cu, etc.

I commonly used recon's that were 6-8 weeks old with regular bac. No clouding, no issues, same effect. I just make sure I keep everything sterile clean. The regular disclaimer of 28 days is for multi-use, multi patients. Seen studies that show 90 days is upper limit for bac. Jano reported that we worry too much about degradation. 4% was his worst case. Frigo or room temp made little differences. Its really about bacterial growth.