are you concerned?

[FlowerFairy]

Did anyone actually get sick from that? I thought it showed up in a test.

A guy on Reddit used it and supposedly started “peeing black” but I can’t find any follow up beyond the first day that he used it.

 

[YoYoFat]

We’ve already seen contaminated meds with whatever that cleaning solution was. Didn’t that mess people up pretty good?

I’ve heard of no illness or sickness from it.

 

[Cndmk]

So let me understand the thought premise here. They would intentionally put a higher price selling material into a strong customer base that has a tendency to test product a LOT, to... hurt them, which would then blow up their business almost instantly where they are making money hand over fist?

This world would do wise to re-learn Occam's razor principle, if it makes literal zero sense from a financial perspective in a medium risk environment, it won't happen.

I don't do conspiracy theories, but if we EVER see fentanyl that is confirmed to be widespread by a vendor, I automatically would think it's a government agency trying to punish the grey market, literally almost NO other situation would make sense.

 

[Morbius]

I automatically would think it's a government agency trying to punish the grey market

Good point and there is precedent!

 

[Peotidethrowaway]

This world would do wise to re-learn Occam's razor principle, if it makes literal zero sense from a financial perspective in a medium risk environment, it won't happen.

Accksssschhhuuuaaalllllaaaaaaayyyy

 

[jdaniel30]

The allegations of fentanyl in China peptides gives pharma the excuse to use patient safety rather than preservation of profits as their motive to seize products at the border. Seriously, we are taking food from the mouths of billionaires.

 

[Cndmk]

Accksssschhhuuuaaalllllaaaaaaayyyy

Notice what I said "widespread", I could TOTALLY believe that a single instance due to someone doing something stupid in shipping/supply chain.

Occam's dictates the simplest explanation is USUALLY the correct one. The explanation of rich greedy pricks convince government with money to do something evil to maintain/increase profits which is proven to happen all the time is actually simpler than some kind of crazy concept where a whole facility knowingly poisons their customer base for.. reasons? The mental gymnastics to go through a facility knowingly blowing up business is a CRAZY jump also if it attracts international criminal convictions for essentially no profit gain.

I would even be surprised if a country did that TBH (but short term thinking is the name of the game if you are run by an oligarchy/dictator), because the international sanctions and possibly cutting off shipping from pharma sources would probably not justify the profits the companies want to protect

Let's take the zero pep's incident happening earlier in the year, do we know exactly what happened? No, but we have been able to trace certain labels/etc. to what seemingly were the 0 pep vials, which most likely traces back to a central supplier.

What most likely happened:

- A supplier scammed the manufacturers with bunk product to make a quick buck, thus supplying them with basically "sugar" when you expected peptides. That makes a hell of a lot of sense and made the supplier a ton of short term money. It wouldn't attract international attention as it only screwed over the vendors + us, which people would say "screw em" anyways to financially hurting those groups. It was a cheap tactic that provided a lot of money to that supplier and if they wanted to leave the market anyways I can see the motive. It also didn't harm anyone outside of the financial part to my knowledge.

For most people outcome > than input energy or risk for large decisions like that to make sense. Actors in general are logical about risk vs. reward (when all information is known). If you are going to bring up something like Tariffs in this argument which seem self deprecating, tariffs are a regressive tax on consumption, so it make sense rich people would be in favor of tariffs, as they don't consume exponentially more than an average person.

 

[Peotidethrowaway]

Notice what I said "widespread", I could TOTALLY believe that a single instance due to someone doing something stupid in shipping/supply chain.

Occam's dictates the simplest explanation is USUALLY the correct one. The explanation of rich greedy pricks convince government with money to do something evil to maintain/increase profits which is proven to happen all the time is actually simpler than some kind of crazy concept where a whole facility knowingly poisons their customer base for.. reasons? The mental gymnastics to go through a facility knowingly blowing up business is a CRAZY jump also if it attracts international criminal convictions for essentially no profit gain.

I would even be surprised if a country did that TBH (but short term thinking is the name of the game if you are run by an oligarchy/dictator), because the international sanctions and possibly cutting off shipping from pharma sources would probably not justify the profits the companies want to protect

Let's take the zero pep's incident happening earlier in the year, do we know exactly what happened? No, but we have been able to trace certain labels/etc. to what seemingly were the 0 pep vials, which most likely traces back to a central supplier.

What most likely happened:

- A supplier scammed the manufacturers with bunk product to make a quick buck, thus supplying them with basically "sugar" when you expected peptides. That makes a hell of a lot of sense and made the supplier a ton of short term money. It wouldn't attract international attention as it only screwed over the vendors + us, which people would say "screw em" anyways to financially hurting those groups. It was a cheap tactic that provided a lot of money to that supplier and if they wanted to leave the market anyways I can see the motive. It also didn't harm anyone outside of the financial part to my knowledge.

For most people outcome > than input energy or risk for large decisions like that to make sense. Actors in general are logical about risk vs. reward (when all information is known). If you are going to bring up something like Tariffs in this argument which seem self deprecating, tariffs are a regressive tax on consumption, so it make sense rich people would be in favor of tariffs, as they don't consume exponentially more than an average person.

 

[micropapaya]

I have been using tirz for over a year and am pretty familiar with MOST things. However i have seen the topic of fentanyl mentioned a few times here and also on the telegram chat. I'd like to know should we be concerned about the possibility of our peptides having fentanyl in there? I do have anxiety so i am probably over thinking it more than i should be. Thanks for any insight i appreciate it

If you're that concerned, get some fentanyl testing strips from your local harm reduction organization. You can also order them if you're wanting something more discreet

 

[micropapaya]

Fent in glp’s sounds like kids being warned to check their holloween candy. I don’t have any concerns.

To be fair, the thing about checking Halloween candy came about because in the 80s someone had put razor blades in apples and popcorn balls. This wouldn't be the same as there has yet to be any reported issue of fentanyl in gray glps

 

[micropapaya]

To be fair, the thing about checking Halloween candy came about because in the 80s someone had put razor blades in apples and popcorn balls. This wouldn't be the same as there has yet to be any reported issue of fentanyl in gray glps

And I believe in those instances with the razors in apples, it turned out to be pranks by children.

 

[Cndmk]

Riveting rebuttal

 

[joseblo]

Man, if you're gonna worry about something, worry about Carfentanil or Botox. Those are dangerous below 1% contamination ~10ug. Botox is crazy effective below ng levels.

 

[Peotidethrowaway]

Riveting rebuttal

 

[Bflo_Bflo_Bflo_Bfl]

And I believe in those instances with the razors in apples, it turned out to be pranks by children.

IIRC there was one instance of a parent poisoning their kid’s candy on purpose, and he tried to poison other kids to draw away suspicion. It was for life insurance.

Then a few pranks by friends and family.

And oddly enough a few where people were upset that nobody seemed concerned about poison or razor blades in candy, so they put poison and razor blades in candy to prove that it could really happen.