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[ilateapex]

Does everyone receive their gray at their address in their real name? I plan on using a vender with US warehouse to ship to US but want to be extra mindful not to mess up. Don’t want to loose my Global Entry.

So when filling out info do you use real name? Could you enter all payment info then just use a made up name at your address?

I hope using US warehouse means little to no risk either way.

 

[Oldguy]

What are you trying to hide from? It’s being shipped every day and it’s not breaking any laws. Importing and exporting is a different matter.

 

[Vriende]

A recent thread on this --

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[lessthanhalf]

The US has some pretty weird laws about mail fraud. It might be worth some research on the legal implications of getting busted importing stuff under a false name first, which might be illegal itself. Do you not have a friend that is local who does not need the global entry you could get to receive the packages?

If purchasing via a warehouse that is in country, there should be no issue, unless they take your payment and then tell you they are out of stock and will have to send it from china instead.

 

[mybodyisasewer]

The reports of people losing their Global Entry are anecdotal so far. No major program has been announced by CBP to revoke this status specifically for peptide importers.

Also remember that CBP is worried about imports, not domestic. This means they are not involved in a domestic purchase, and wouldn't know about or care about purchasing from a US warehouse.

However, it is still a good idea to use a PO box (yes with your real name) to prevent controlled deliveries, and put distance between your home and the delivery. Also prevents theives.

 

[birdwhacker]

The reports of people losing their Global Entry are anecdotal so far. No major program has been announced by CBP to revoke this status specifically for peptide importers.

Nonetheless, it is happening. Many accounts on Peppy's.

Also remember that CBP is worried about imports, not domestic. This means they are not involved in a domestic purchase, and wouldn't know about or care about purchasing from a US warehouse.

Correct.

However, it is still a good idea to use a PO box (yes with your real name) to prevent controlled deliveries, and put distance between your home and the delivery.

What's your line of reasoning here, and why did you bring up CDs? CDs aren't even a big worry when importing schedule 4's in personal amounts, not even worth bringing up in the context of peptides. Hell, DNM vendors won't even ship to PO boxes for the most part.

Either way, whether you're importing pharma, peptides, or DNM stuff, use your real name and deny everything if asked, don't answer questions, and don't claim the package or dignify seizure communications with a response.

 

[BNLFL]

Always use my real name, and I've ordered a boat load.

 

[ilateapex]

A recent thread on this --

[archived internal link]

Thank you. I guess my searching isn’t that good because I looked before I posted.

 

[IronCircuit]

Nonetheless, it is happening. Many accounts on Peppy's.

Correct.

What's your line of reasoning here, and why did you bring up CDs? CDs aren't even a big worry when importing schedule 4's in personal amounts, not even worth bringing up in the context of peptides. Hell, DNM vendors won't even ship to PO boxes for the most part.

Either way, whether you're importing pharma, peptides, or DNM stuff, use your real name and deny everything if asked, don't answer questions, and don't claim the package or dignify seizure communications with a response.

Truly curious, do you know this for sure? What kind of quantity would you need to be shipping to flag Scheduled products?

 

[ilateapex]

Thanks for the replies. Does not seem clear or cut and dry. I have to go through background checkes with some projects I’m involved with and curious about that too. I understand big brother can figure out anything if they are determined but figured not delivered to me directly would pass the whimsical flag on something.

Still not sure what to do.

 

[birdwhacker]

Truly curious, do you know this for sure?

I don't think anyone knows anything for sure. I've just never heard of CDs happening for anything but DNM orders for schedule 1 products.

What kind of quantity would you need to be shipping to flag Scheduled products?

I would feel uncomfortable ordering more than 500 pills of Cialis, personally. I'd feel more uncomfortable ordering that than a few kits of HGH with my peps.

I have to go through background checkes with some projects I’m involved with and curious about that too.

I would only order domestically if you have secret clearances, and if you have a career where you might need higher clearance I'd suggest being even more careful by ordering to a friend's address.

If you're talking about civilian work, I wouldn't worry at all. Even if you did get an international package seized and Global Entry revoked, I would bet that it would not show on any kind of employment background check or when buying a gun. Would stay internal at CBP and related agencies and only come up with military and travel stuff.

Still not sure what to do.

Just order domestically. J5 recently restocked, there are a lot of US warehouses from Chinese vendors, there are TG vendors who keep stock and GBs should also be safe since the head of the GB is handling the Chinese connection and then shipping to you once it's in country.

 

[sofaKINGnoob]

Thanks for the replies. Does not seem clear or cut and dry. I have to go through background checkes with some projects I’m involved with and curious about that too. I understand big brother can figure out anything if they are determined but figured not delivered to me directly would pass the whimsical flag on something.

Still not sure what to do.

* I did not see birdwhacker's post before this but he is spot on. *

Domestic orders by my estimate are 98% less likely to be seized. Use your real name for domestic orders unless you have a fake ID that matches the fictitious one used which can be a crime in and of itself.

If referring to criminal "background checkes" then obviously any court records of arrests, guilty pleas, diversion programs, and convictions will show up. If talking about security clearances for the Fed Gov as an employee or contractor then that is a whole other beast... And yes they can see non public / secret records of a seizure whether it be by US Customs or another LE agency, past & current investigations, plus a lot more.

 

[mybodyisasewer]

What's your line of reasoning here, and why did you bring up CDs? CDs aren't even a big worry when importing schedule 4's in personal amounts, not even worth bringing up in the context of peptides. Hell, DNM vendors won't even ship to PO boxes for the most part.

Ok yes the PO box may be overly cautious, but

1. Yes, peptides aren't a priority, but we both know a lot of people in this space eventually end up on Indiamart where the offerings are legally spicier. There's some stuff on there that could potentially get you in trouble.

2. PO box prevents the sale from being tied to your home address. This might be important if you live with someone who has a security clearance, Global Entry, or if they're at risk of deportation or on probation, the PO box protects your people at home.

3. While most DNM vendors won't ship to a box, many will, and you can also use street addressing to trick them if they don't google the address.

Most of my security principles come from SR and in my opinion, newer peptide buyers aren't scared enough. We're in a golden age wild west right now and it won't always be like this.