
Batch numbers for all intents and purposes are pretty meaningless unless the vendor is relying on them as part of a guarantee for mass and purity.


I never updated this, but there were different colored caps and a 2digit number on top of each box. It corresponded with a batch number they have COAs for. She refers to the batches by their last two digits. (GYC)desinr-gal said:Same here, Not from AL but GYC; but between shipping from Hawaii, and testing it will cost 2x more than I spent on the product yikes.



They have an active Telegram group that you will be invited to after a couple orders. I have made 4 -- Reta, GLOW, KPV, BAC. I have yet to run into an unsatisfied person who has dealt with them. I am happy. I suggest joining the telegram. Be a little patient, as it will take a couple orders or a biggie to get the invite.randompersonrandom said:I ordered from them on like Wednesday night last week. Had my shipping label twenty minutes later, and my klow came on Friday. The person I talked to said (politely) that they won't be taking orders going forward via email, and to contact them via telegram instead in the future.
I wish they had a discord or something, because the lack of recent or longer term customers talking to each other makes me a little wary.
I can't speak to the quality of the klow, it looked about like what I would expect it to look, but I guess I'll know more when my filtering stuff and pen stuff comes and I can practice reconstituting it and then trying it out. I went with them because they take Venmo, nobody said they sold crap, and when I went through all their reddit reviews, some did look like they might be shills BUT well over half of the commenters had a post history of talking about things other than how great AL is. So we'll see!


You’re not wrong at all. But you do get extra third party testing and payment options that aren’t crypto. Those things are worth the extra$ for some. Saying that though I did more recently go SSA for some stuff.Airborne Daddy said:I get it.... ships domestically but 200 for a tirz 30 kit I'll go ssa us warehouse for 135





I am curious about your statement. Did you mean batch numbers are meaningless and to always do independent testing or that even if group testing or individual testing is done it’s a crap shoot and determine your own level of risk. ThanksZippityDooDah said:Batch numbers for all intents and purposes are pretty meaningless unless the vendor is relying on them as part of a guarantee for mass and purity.

It means what I said.Maryheartline0803@ said:I am curious about your statement. Did you mean batch numbers are meaningless and to always do independent testing or that even if group testing or individual testing is done it’s a crap shoot and determine your own level of risk. Thanks

Appreciate the clarification and education. Thank youZippityDooDah said:It means what I said.
If a vendor guarantees that "Batch # 12345" will test a minimum (for example) of 99.0% purity and -5%/+10% of advertised mass, and tests (whether individual or group funded) come back at 98% purity and/or -8% mass, and they honor that guarantee with either refund or replacement, then the batch number might mean something. Otherwise it means that the roll of labels that were printed up with that batch number haven't run out yet.


They are one in the same. I love them.HZM808 said:I've been looking at Amino Lair and I know companies have changed names in the past. Did it used to be Amino Fitness? I ask because on the COA for one of my interests, it has that company's name on it instead of Amino Lair. They're also using several different companies for testing, is that normal?
I've been looking at Amino Lair and I know companies have changed names in the past. Did it used to be Amino Fitness? I ask because on the COA for one of my interests, it has that company's name on it instead of Amino Lair. They're also using several different companies for testing, is that normal?

The mix of names and the mix of testing companys also gave me pause.geoguy78 said:That's unfortunate to hear. Judging by what I'm seeing here, plus the fact that one of the COAs that Amino Lair has posted on their price sheet was ordered by "Amino Fitness", I'll probably go someplace else. Something just doesn't smell right....

The order I received from AL had a return label of amino fitness. My vials of T30 so far are good.HZM808 said:I've been looking at Amino Lair and I know companies have changed names in the past. Did it used to be Amino Fitness? I ask because on the COA for one of my interests, it has that company's name on it instead of Amino Lair. They're also using several different companies for testing, is that normal?
