All right, i searched for freezing tirz, specifically the Jano response but...

[Gr33dyOctopus]

Here's a thread with a discussion that influenced my thought process

Survo - Can I freeze after reconstitution?

Okay, so I'm getting close to starting my Survo research. Problem is, It's a 10mg kit and my starting dose 500mcg will take too long to use safely. My question is: would it be okay to freeze after reconstitution between administration? will that help it last the duration?

glp1forum.com

Ima read it now tanks Fatlicia!!!

 

[Calm Logic]

I think more people don't freeze because the reward doesn't seem enough for the uncertainty. OTOH, as @indolent has mentioned before, freezing is more sterile than refrigeration, which is the best argument for freezing reconned vials:

I'd be more worried about sterility issues when splitting it up into multiple vials.

I'd either move the reconnned vial in and out of freezer (it thaws quickly) or just ignore the 4-week rule and go with 12 weeks refrigerated (as I and many others here do)...assuming always alcohol-swabbing the top before puncture, including at recon.

That DOES look promising its on my short list ty!

Relatively few vendors sell ARA 290. J5 has the kits and BioBombshell has the singles from the same vendor (ZYH, which does retail but mostly bulk sales).

 

[Gr33dyOctopus]

Here's a thread with a discussion that influenced my thought process

Survo - Can I freeze after reconstitution?

Okay, so I'm getting close to starting my Survo research. Problem is, It's a 10mg kit and my starting dose 500mcg will take too long to use safely. My question is: would it be okay to freeze after reconstitution between administration? will that help it last the duration?

glp1forum.com

Read it, still not convinced not to freeze but some good info in that thread!!!

 

[Calm Logic]

Have you seen what Google Gemini says? Basically, you could be injecting Frankenstein GLP, haha. The testing doesn't confirm that, but there could be a touch of freaky in the vial.

 

[byefatlicia]

Have you seen what Google Gemini says? Basically, you could be injecting Frankenstein GLP, haha. But the testing doesn't confirm that.

kind of gives you the idea that it was paid to say that

 

[Calm Logic]

But that is also the common-sense concern, that freezing is a form of destruction.

So if you have even a minuscule amount of former tirz, can it mess things up over time, if you keep injecting more freaky stuff week after week?

But the cagri controversy about fibrils seemed overblown too.

 

[deleted.user.18]

Im following you now motherfuck. You are awesome, and so is indolent, going to follow that fucker to, and probably Nathan, and airborne, and others. Its nice getting my bearings in here and seeing the people that really make a difference for me. Ty much! Yea, if I can freeze 10 vials and just use up the 30ml bac. Its not just me this is for, there's a ton of other rats in my life wanting this cheese.

Make life wayyyy easier.

Have you been drinking?

 

[deleted.user.18]

Im gonna go for it. Trying my first reconstituted gray tomorrow, will take and freeze another 5 or even 9 and mess with them every so often to see if myself or other rats notice a decline in potency.

Yeaaaaaa boiiii!

I’m doing it. Recon a R60 into 3x R20 vials and freeze 2. If it affects the product I figure I’ll feel it

 

[Calm Logic]

Another potential survivor! And many bros on the Meso forum inject foamy, denatured HGH every day of the year without issue.

 

[byefatlicia]

But that is also the common-sense concern, that freezing is a form of destruction.

So if you have even a minuscule amount of former tirz, can it mess things up over time, if you keep injecting more freaky stuff week after week?

But the cagri controversy about fibrils seemed overblown too.

If you ask Gemini about freezing Bac, it's not good too

 

[Calm Logic]

Gemini, with a better attitude:

Peptides with Better Freezing Stability

The stability of a reconstituted peptide in a frozen state is primarily determined by its size and amino acid sequence .

Peptide Type Example (Reconned) Why It's More Stable Frozen Dipeptides/Tripeptides Glutathione (GSH) : γ-L-Glutamyl-L-cysteinylglycine (3 residues) Simplest structure; less prone to complex aggregation upon cryoconcentration. Less susceptible to freezing damage than large proteins. SS-31 (Elamipretide) D-Arg-Dmt-Lys-Phe-NH₂ (4 residues) Its small, linear structure makes it highly stable in frozen aliquots. BPC-157 Pentadecapeptide (15 residues) Known to be relatively robust and is frequently stored frozen in aliquots by researchers.

 

[byefatlicia]

with a better attitude:

 

[Gr33dyOctopus]

I think more people don't freeze because the reward doesn't seem enough for the uncertainty. OTOH, as @indolent has mentioned before, freezing is more sterile than refrigeration, which is the best argument for freezing reconned vials:

Yep, would hard agree

Relatively few vendors sell ARA 290. J5 has the kits and BioBombshell has the singles from the same vendor (ZYH, which does retail but mostly bulk sales).

Got it!

ArA 290 check out - biobombshell kits - j5 vials- bulk zyh

 

[Gr33dyOctopus]

Have you seen what Google Gemini says? Basically, you could be injecting Frankenstein GLP, haha. The testing doesn't confirm that, but there could be a touch of freaky in the vial.

I talk to my paid chatgpt all the time, at first it was antipeptide, but I convinced it that these gray market peps are fine and it now suggests and encourages me towards certain ones. Now its on my side !

 

[Gr33dyOctopus]

Have you been drinking?

Following you too, you fucking maniac!!!

 

[Gr33dyOctopus]

I’m doing it. Recon a R60 into 3x R20 vials and freeze 2. If it affects the product I figure I’ll feel it

Thats why your a goddamn awesome lab rat, and why everyone loves you.

 

[byefatlicia]

My rats don't wanna be guinea pigs. They're more like scaredy cats.

 

[YoYoFat]

PTDS has data on thawing reconstituted tirzepatide multiple times, and it seems like there was no loss in potency. So I would readily consider freezing reconstituted tirzepatide for later use safe.

I don’t think this is accurate. There’s a chart that shows significant degradation with repeated thaw cycles.

 

[deleted.user.18]

I don’t think this is accurate. There’s a chart that shows significant degradation with repeated thaw cycles.

I’m not yet on their server… but this is the exact opposite of what I’ve seen posted across multiple communities regarding this test they did. I reserve judgment, however, until I’ve actually seen their results on their server. Working on it.

 

[Gr33dyOctopus]

My rats don't wanna be guinea pigs. They're more like scaredy cats.

Mine are uber trusting that im not going to Kill or maim them, and as brave as lions.