After finishing CJC-1295/Ipa blend, how long to wait before starting Tesa?

[IvanD]

As the title says, after RS CJC/Ipa for 8 weeks at 250/250 mcg, how long should someone wait before researching Tesa?

By the way, some RS shows 5 on 2 off for CJC/Ipa, but some RS suggests 7 days (no break for the entire 8 weeks). Can anyone provide definitive research (pubmed or other) on if one more ideal?

 

[thorvald]

Tesa was used in studies with no off period search for Egrifta

 

[foffspam111]

Thorvald is right. The studies had no off period. I do the 5x2 schedule for my entire stack of peptides as a couple days off seems to act as a mini reset.

I have done cycles of 8-12 weeks on 7 day no break and saw no meaningful difference in results suck as fat %, training load, sleep, HRV, BPM, so I stick with the popular 5x2.

One thing I have noticed is, and is the only meaningful difference, I go on long runs on Saturday. The stack I’m on seems to raise my heart rate a few BPM for a few hours after pinning. Timing the 2 days off to align with the long runs have assisted in keeping my zone 2 run an actual zone 2 run. I suspect it’s the BPC or TB500 that may raise the BPM but haven’t dug into it too much, just stick with the 5x2. I am interested in what others have found on the journey.

 

[DjJoshua]

As the title says, after RS CJC/Ipa for 8 weeks at 250/250 mcg, how long should someone wait before researching Tesa?

By the way, some RS shows 5 on 2 off for CJC/Ipa, but some RS suggests 7 days (no break for the entire 8 weeks). Can anyone provide definitive research (pubmed or other) on if one more ideal?

I've been running CJC-1295 no DAC + Ipamorelin in the mornings (5 on / 2 off) for 3 weeks now, and added Tesamorelin + Ipamorelin at night 7 days ago. Even though Tesamorelin and CJC both act on the same GHRH receptors but in a different way, making it somewhat overkill, the workout recovery from the CJC/Ipam combo has been excellent.

 

[Ricey]

I've been running CJC-1295 no DAC + Ipamorelin in the mornings (5 on / 2 off) for 3 weeks now, and added Tesamorelin + Ipamorelin at night 7 days ago. Even though Tesamorelin and CJC both act on the same GHRH receptors but in a different way, making it somewhat overkill, the workout recovery from the CJC/Ipam combo has been excellent.

Just started CJC/IPA how have you found the experience?

 

[DjJoshua]

Just started CJC/IPA how have you found the experience?

I did notice if I bumped the dose up too fast I did feel tingling in my arms and weird feelings in my chest, possibly heartburn but once it settled, it was pretty smooth I didn’t notice after about three weeks. I was able to work out with more energy for some reason and I felt like I was recovering faster maybe a placebo. I know when I started Tess at 1mg I did retain about 5 pounds of water weight but now it’s starting to drop off after a week overall pretty impressed as long as I don’t jump up in the dose to fast.

 

[Ricey]

I did notice if I bumped the dose up too fast I did feel tingling in my arms and weird feelings in my chest, possibly heartburn but once it settled, it was pretty smooth I didn’t notice after about three weeks. I was able to work out with more energy for some reason and I felt like I was recovering faster maybe a placebo. I know when I started Tess at 1mg I did retain about 5 pounds of water weight but now it’s starting to drop off after a week overall pretty impressed as long as I don’t jump up in the dose to fast.

Im only running 150mcg of each. Had some irritation and got the flushing effect will keep it going for a while and take it slow

 

[DjJoshua]

Im only running 150mcg of each. Had some irritation and got the flushing effect will keep it going for a while and take it slow

After the initial experience / effects from flushing etc and understanding what it's doing I did personally calm down. The flushing went away with in a week. some time I will feel a small amount.

 

[Sir Chuck 13527]

Thanks for the info.

 

[Neurogroot]

I was going to post this exact question today! I ended up giving myself 4 weeks off from CJC/IPA before trying Tesa. Maybe I am overthinking the whole down regulation thing. Just doing a trial run here, hoping the Tesa swelling sides don’t get too bad on my already inflamed joints. Hoping KPV knocks some of it out.

Also, is it kinda weird I… like the CJC/IPA flush? The warm/cozy buzzing as I fall asleep is oddly comforting.

Just for reference, CJC/IPA dosages at 250 mcg each compound PM, 150 mcg each AM. 5 days on, 2 off. 8 weeks cycle, 4 weeks washout

Planning on 3 step (sort of) titration for Tesa. 150 mcg am/pm (300 mcg daily) for 3 days to test any unexpected sides. 300 mcg am/pm for 10 days to acclimate (600 mcg daily), 500 mcg am/pm (1mg daily). 5 on/2 off, 8 weeks cycle, 4 weeks washout.

 

[brah389]

What kind of results are ya'll seeing? Are any of you over 50? I'm a 52 y/o gym rat and trying to get back into the groove after a significant leg injury 9 months ago with low energy. My only concern is the cancer element to all of these although my family history has steered clear from cancer the most part. Just looking to see if it helps with brain fog, muscle growth, energy, libido, recovery. What are your experiences?

 

[Ricey]

What kind of results are ya'll seeing? Are any of you over 50? I'm a 52 y/o gym rat and trying to get back into the groove after a significant leg injury 9 months ago with low energy. My only concern is the cancer element to all of these although my family history has steered clear from cancer the most part. Just looking to see if it helps with brain fog, muscle growth, energy, libido, recovery. What are your experiences?

Only just started but im 38. Lost 7.5 stone and now taking enclomiphene and started CJC/IPA stack. Want to just recomp my body and focus on health. Doing bloods to keep an eye on things but im purely doing it to feel better. Previously I was pre diabetic and on CPAP

 

[brah389]

Only just started but im 38. Lost 7.5 stone and now taking enclomiphene and started CJC/IPA stack. Want to just recomp my body and focus on health. Doing bloods to keep an eye on things but im purely doing it to feel better. Previously I was pre diabetic and on CPAP

7.5 stone?! Congrats! You and @Gr33dyOctopus are in the same boat! I'm waiting on my enclomiphene to come in, I got 2 bottles of the sublingual and just looking for advice to add to the stack once I get my hands on some Reta!

 

[Ricey]

7.5 stone?! Congrats! You and @Gr33dyOctopus are in the same boat! I'm waiting on my enclomiphene to come in, I got 2 bottles of the sublingual and just looking for advice to add to the stack once I get my hands on some Reta!

I would make sure you get bloods done prior to starting for a decent baseline. Im getting my Enclomiphene from a private doctor so blood tests are required. But its good habit when we are injecting various compounds lol. But yeah MJ & Reta have been amazing!