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adria37 said:
Pig brains?? is there any concern for prion diseases?

I've never used it but people in this space have been using it for a while. Actual cases seem exceedingly rare and in weird unknown cases or hunters who ate infected deer.

Hopefully if a pig showed signs of prion disease, they wouldn't extract brain peptides from said pig.
 
I have seen it and it is a horrible death. The person previously worked in a Texas slaughterhouse. When they say mad cow has never been in the US they fail to mention CJD which is what mad cow is called in humans. There are ~ 500 cases diagnosed in the US per year. It is always fatal. Prions are hard to destroy so if there was a prion infected pig brain used to make the medication it would be transmittable. I can't remember exactly what the temperature is to kill a prion (1000 degrees maybe) but I know normal sterilization of surgical instruments will not do it and you can't freeze them out. We sealed the room and had the CDC involved. This was in the early 2000 or late 1990's.
 
adria37 said:
I have seen it and it is a horrible death. The person previously worked in a Texas slaughterhouse. When they say mad cow has never been in the US they fail to mention CJD which is what mad cow is called in humans. There are ~ 500 cases diagnosed in the US per year. It is always fatal. Prions are hard to destroy so if there was a prion infected pig brain used to make the medication it would be transmittable. I can't remember exactly what the temperature is to kill a prion (1000 degrees maybe) but I know normal sterilization of surgical instruments will not do it and you can't freeze them out. We sealed the room and had the CDC involved. This was in the early 2000 or late 1990's.
They have had multiple transmissions via brain surgery (sterilized normal) - now days, according to Mayo, if potential for prions the tools are destroyed.
 
I can recommend armodafinil, not peptide, but its a good alternative medication. From India its for around USD10/strip only
 
1HandLionTamer said:
They have had multiple transmissions via brain surgery (sterilized normal) - now days, according to Mayo, if potential for prions the tools are destroyed.
Scary shit. I am a lifelong vegetarian but any thing made with brains scares me. You know that "chronic wasting syndrome" is the same thing. It is in elk and deer. I have a feeling no one knows about this because the risk of panic. How would a hunter know if the deer they killed and ate had the early stages of it. I am not sure if people eat elk. Initially they said not to eat the meat of animals you thought might have chronic wasting syndrome but if you had it wasn't transmittable to humans but the latest info from the CDC is not to eat the meat. "Michael Osterholm, Ph.D. is a world-renowned epidemiologist, said transmission to humans has not yet been confirmed, but research suggests it is increasingly likely— especially as the disease continues to spread among deer and elk."
 
I've taken modafinil (the generic Indian brands). It's fairly inexpensive and it does work but if you don't take it *really* early in the morning it can cause insomnia. I was trying to off set the fatigue from tirz and it did help me get through work without crashing. Also took it in college at times to help study w/ harder classes like anatomy but I only really noticed a positive difference with math homework. Took semax as a nasal spray once and it was really subtle and at times I hardly felt anything at all.
 
lagomorph said:
I've taken modafinil (the generic Indian brands).
I cant tolerate modafinil effects, armodafinil feels much better, but yes you are right with insomnia, Im on sleep medications so no issues for me 😉
 
Tesofensine. This is not a peptide, but I have heard it being compared to Adderall. I use it and my husband uses it. Neither of us have used Adderall before, but I can tell you that both of us experience an enhanced ability to focus and concentrate on Teso.
 
goodvibes671 said:
Tesofensine. This is not a peptide, but I have heard it being compared to Adderall. I use it and my husband uses it. Neither of us have used Adderall before, but I can tell you that both of us experience an enhanced ability to focus and concentrate on Teso.
It helps with my appetite suppression. I stack with Reta.
 
milos said:
I cant tolerate modafinil effects, armodafinil feels much better, but yes you are right with insomnia, Im on sleep medications so no issues for me 😉
I’m with ya 💯 Armodafinil !! I’ve been using the same source for 4-5 years now and usually it breaks down to abt $.75 cents per 💊.

Pharma ADD ADHD meds these days are SO watered down, they certainly aren’t what they use to be years ago!
 
milos said:
direct from India it can be even cheaper!
Yeah I’ve gotten it a lot cheaper but they don’t give

Me a guarantee should my package get held up…..u know what I’m saying 😉
 
With armodafinil and modafinil what is the process for stopping it? Do you have to ween off?
 
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The best alternative for Adderall is Adderall.
 
keangkong said:
I’ve taken Adderall for 24 years. It works great. I don’t know why someone would try to find an alternative to. It.
I've been on it for about the same amount of time. Doc has convinced me to try other options (XR, Vyvanse, etc ... mainly when theres shortages) but none of them compare to the little orange/pink pill. I always end up going back to it after a month or two.
 
dogmom said:
With armodafinil and modafinil what is the process for stopping it? Do you have to ween off?
from what I have been reading no.
 
I have ADHD, but for some reason all of the doctors I see are against stimulants even though I've never had an addiction problem (besides food). I don't think any of the nootropics give the same stimulant effect. there's phenylpiracetam (I think QSC has it) and pramiracetam are supposed to be stimulants but I never could feel if they were working or not. Modafinil will make you feel awake so if fatigue is a reason you can't get things done it will help there.
 
mousey said:
I have ADHD, but for some reason all of the doctors I see are against stimulants even though I've never had an addiction problem (besides food). I don't think any of the nootropics give the same stimulant effect. there's phenylpiracetam (I think QSC has it) and pramiracetam are supposed to be stimulants but I never could feel if they were working or not. Modafinil will make you feel awake so if fatigue is a reason you can't get things done it will help there.
The psychiatrists who deal frequently with ADHD usually prefer to the stimulant drugs. In practice, they are not addictive when used as directed. They work better than the other drugs. Their side effects are mild.
 
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