
according to peppedia there is strong synergyftv10hb said:Taking it a step further, anybody out there pairing it with NAD+? My understanding (which is beginner level at best lol) is these would have some synergy

I use them together, nad and 5 aminobay_area_schizo said:according to peppedia there is strong synergy
Notice a difference when pairing them together vs either one alone or did you start off taking both?CNCCurrency said:I use them together, nad and 5 amino

Not really. I'm just using up my 5 amino kit and probably won't replace it. I love the science behind it but not seeing any benefits from it.ftv10hb said:Notice a difference when pairing them together vs either one alone or did you start off taking both?
Noticing nothing at all or just not enough to be worth it?DukeBroadway said:Currently taking 5mg, dont intend to purchase again.

You seem to take risk with higher start doses. I always start at lower dose but ramp up quickly after I find out how I react.chewonmysac said:5mg daily. In the AM fasted.
6-8 weeks. Take a month break between cycles excellent pep.
Me I'm a scaredy cat. I started at .5 mg.RicFlair said:holy moly this blows my 0.5 mg out of the water lol. Looks like i need to start titrating up quickly and see how it works with me. How long will you be cycling it for? I have two kits of 5-amino 5mg so im hoping now that if i have to take a whole vial a day, it will do me any good. @eidos
I will probably boost it up eventually to 5mgorenkaid said:I do 1mg per day because lots of people get the dosage all over the place. Definitely felt a difference. Will probably boost to 5mg once my 50mg vials come in.

"reconstitute it with sterile water" Does it call for sterile water or do you choose to use it instead of BAC water? I have ordered some but haven't fully learned all I need to know yet. Thankseidos said:It's excellent. It completely eliminates the fatigue caused by diabetes and Reta treatment. I'm taking 5 mg subcutaneously per day. I tried 10 mg, but it wasn't better, and the drop was too rapid.
a feeling of better ventilation during exercise, less lactic acid, and a heart rate that’s about 10 bpm lower.
I reconstitute it with sterile water for injection. It’s a quaternary ammonium compound, so it’s an antimicrobial. Be careful not to make a mess when you flush the needle: don’t do the injection while wearing clothes you care about.
I've seen people injecting 50 mg a day (not orally, but subcutaneously). According to the research I've read, the dose-response curve flattens out early, below the equivalent of 50 mg in humans. Plus, it's possibly a mutagen, so I wouldn't risk taking high doses. (The color reminds me of ethidium bromide: maybe that's what's holding me back to a lower dose).
What interests me greatly is that this would lower homocysteine levels and erase the epigenetic memory of fat cells, thereby preventing weight regain. We'll talk about it again in a year or two.

BlueDog55 said:do you choose to use it instead of BAC water?

Am I understanding you correctly using either one is fine? I have BAC on hand so will just use it if I am understanding you correctly.eidos said:Quaternary ammonium compounds are antimicrobials. You’ll find them in disinfectant wipes and certain medical-grade antiseptics (often benzalkonium). BA is a bacteriostatic agent; it wouldn’t be any more effective, so I don’t think there’s any point in adding it.
yes it's fine to use BAC.BlueDog55 said:Am I understanding you correctly using either one is fine? I have BAC on hand so will just use it if I am understanding you correctly.