Thoughts on testing vs not testing?

[Windingroads06]

I think those 2 sentences from your posts are exactly the points that invite conflict. You're not just laying out your personal risk profile and reasoning - you're saying everyone who has differences in risk profiles are lazy idiots and not very smart. Which is just like, your opinion, man.

Exactly. My opinion.

 

[Windingroads06]

I started out buying stuff that wasn’t tested. Big mistake because I never saw results. I’m strictly a GB buyer now. Testing is included with the price of the pep.

I think that is smart!

 

[Glp1judd]

I started out buying stuff that wasn’t tested. Big mistake because I never saw results. I’m strictly a GB buyer now. Testing is included with the price of the pep.

Almost certainly placebo effect. But still good you’re testing.

 

[zpped]

There is a conundrum that results with sterility testing as well - if it fails, do you use the vial? Is the failure of sterility actually a major issue, does filtering take care of it? Two different peps I've had failed sterility, and I never used the first one, and I'm still debating whether I will or won't use the second one.

I don't care about sterility testing anymore. I'm filtering it anyways and it doesn't matter at that point

 

[Windingroads06]

I don't care about sterility testing anymore. I'm filtering it anyways and it doesn't matter at that point

I agree with filtering. It's great for filtering out large particles, but it doesn't catch microscopic creepy crawlies.

 

[Glp1judd]

I agree with filtering. It's great for filtering out large particles, but it doesn't catch microscopic creepy crawlies.

They build character

 

[Windingroads06]

They build character

Why, Yes! Yes they do!

 

[zpped]

I agree with filtering. It's great for filtering out large particles, but it doesn't catch microscopic creepy crawlies.

You're very wrong about that. There is no microorganism that isn't caught by a 0.22um filter.

 

[Windingroads06]

You're very wrong about that. There is no microorganism that isn't caught by a 0.22um filter.

Size Matters: Ultra-small and Filterable Microorganisms in the Environment - PMC

Ultra-small microorganisms are ubiquitous in Earth’s environments. Ultramicrobacteria, which are defined as having a cell volume of <0.1 μm3, are often numerically dominant in aqueous environments. Cultivated representatives among these bacteria, ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

You are right.

And of course, all microbes are killed via lyophilization if the machine is sterilized prior to use.

Lyophilization of Parenterals

Drugs, Biologics, Diagnostics

www.fda.gov

 

[mopo89]

kinda wish my title was changed to LAZY IDIOT because i don't test lmao. if someone wants to pitch in to help me test, i'd do it (and i have pitched in for testing, but not sent a vial in), but it is prohibitively expensive with the Canadian dollar right now, and is not worth it.

kinda don't think i'm taking much more of a risk by buying from batches that get tested by tens/dozens of people. but i'll gladly be a LAZY IDIOT and NOT VERY SMART HUMAN. <3