Tesa/ IPA and stomach fat

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I am taking 7.5 tirz and 2 reta. I have been losing at a steady pace. I am also working out and eating right. However, I still am not getting an improvement of my body shape, I'm losing just a little bit every where at once. I've lost about 40 pounds since I started, which puts my bmi at about 40 currently, to give you an idea of my size. I want to target stomach fat, will IPA/TESA help with this?
 
When I started my GLP journey, my BMI was around 35. I, too, started working out. I couldn’t see the difference between muscle groups until my BMI was around 31.

Today, my BMI is 27.8. I definitely see the overall change in body composition in most places, but NOT in my midsection (although I can actually see my … feet again, so I ain’t complaining).

Obviously, YMMV, but if that gives you any sense of what to expect….

As you likely will hear from everyone on this forum, there really is no way to truly spot reduce any part of the body, even with Tesa (although there’s nuance there). You’re going to lose everywhere all at once but some places are going to be finished leaning-out faster than others (for me, it is face, legs).

Tesa was FDA approved to target a very specific condition related to midsection fat. I’ve heard ppl who have access to DEXA scans say Tesa helps reduce visceral fat, which is in the midsection, and that certainly would help.

But it all depends on the exact body recomp you’re looking for
 
Retazempic said:
When I started my GLP journey, my BMI was around 35. I, too, started working out. I couldn’t see the difference between muscle groups until my BMI was around 31.

Today, my BMI is 27.8. I definitely see the overall change in body composition in most places, but NOT in my midsection (although I can actually see my … feet again, so I ain’t complaining).

Obviously, YMMV, but if that gives you any sense of what to expect….

As you likely will hear from everyone on this forum, there really is no way to truly spot reduce any part of the body, even with Tesa (although there’s nuance there). You’re going to lose everywhere all at once but some places are going to be finished leaning-out faster than others (for me, it is face, legs).

Tesa was FDA approved to target a very specific condition related to midsection fat. I’ve heard ppl who have access to DEXA scans say Tesa helps reduce visceral fat, which is in the midsection, and that certainly would help.

But it all depends on the exact body recomp you’re looking for
Thank you!
 
FWIW, I plan on running Tesa for the first time myself. I’m definitely hoping for a bit of fat burn boost, but my real hope is that it will help me recover faster (and might help my sleep).

My first batch should be arriving today. I’m doing a group test, so it will be a couple of weeks before I tap into it.
 
FatPanda said:
I am taking 7.5 tirz and 2 reta. I have been losing at a steady pace. I am also working out and eating right. However, I still am not getting an improvement of my body shape, I'm losing just a little bit every where at once. I've lost about 40 pounds since I started, which puts my bmi at about 40 currently, to give you an idea of my size. I want to target stomach fat, will IPA/TESA help with this?
It’s not impossible to change our body “shape”, but a lot of it is genetic and you need to consider your body type. Are you an ectomorph (lean), mesomorph (muscular), endomorph (curvy/stocky)? Men, especially, chase the mesomorph. Like that perfect V-Shape that Dulph Lundren had in Rocky IV. A lot of women want an ectomorph, which is slimmer looking with smaller shoulders. Then, a lot of us are cursed with endomorph bodies and immediately gather weight around our waists and even with lower body fat look like we have love handles. We will never look like Ivan Drago, but more similar to power lifters. It’s almost like the only way to get rid of the damn love handles is with surgery but the cost is unreasonable and you can’t really change your bone structure.

A lot of people lose weight and just look like a small version of their fatter self. It’s frustrating because you work hard and imagine you will look exactly the way you want to, but you don’t. Also a lot of it’s mental because we want what we don’t have. Often, people with brown eyes admire blues eyes. People with curly hair want straight hair. And the opposite of course.

Figure out what your body type is and go from there. You can’t target fat, but you can target where you build muscle and you can fill voids. You can build your upper body to make your lower body appear smaller.
 
Retazempic said:
FWIW, I plan on running Tesa for the first time myself. I’m definitely hoping for a bit of fat burn boost, but my real hope is that it will help me recover faster (and might help my sleep).

My first batch should be arriving today. I’m doing a group test, so it will be a couple of weeks before I tap into it.
Any update on this ? Did you get your test back and have you started Tesa? If so how’s it working for you ?
 
I started taking my Tesa and DSIP the last week of January 2025

Tesa 1mg in am, 1mg pm

DSIP 250 mg pm

My sleep has definitely improved a lot. I fall asleep easier and wake up less often and feel way more rested when I wake up. No questions.

I can't disentangle whether it was the Tesa or the DSIP or both. I was just so desperate, I didn’t care. At some point I will try removing the DSIP. But right now, I’m just glad something works.

I haven’t lost any weight since starting Tesa (and I’m on 4mg Reta). However, I also returned to lifting weights when I started the Tesa after about a 4 month hiatus, I definitely am stronger, so I might be recomping. Also, my recovery time has notably improved. I used to work a body part every 5 days (if I trained chest Monday, I’d hit it again on Saturday). Now, I work a body part every 3 day (so if I train chest Monday, I’d hit it again on Thursday).
 
Retazempic said:
I started taking my Tesa and DSIP the last week of January 2025

Tesa 1mg in am, 1mg pm

DSIP 250 mg pm

My sleep has definitely improved a lot. I fall asleep easier and wake up less often and feel way more rested when I wake up. No questions.

I can't disentangle whether it was the Tesa or the DSIP or both. I was just so desperate, I didn’t care. At some point I will try removing the DSIP. But right now, I’m just glad something works.

I haven’t lost any weight since starting Tesa (and I’m on 4mg Reta). However, I also returned to lifting weights when I started the Tesa after about a 4 month hiatus, I definitely am stronger, so I might be recomping. Also, my recovery time has notably improved. I used to work a body part every 5 days (if I trained chest Monday, I’d hit it again on Saturday). Now, I work a body part every 3 day (so if I train chest Monday, I’d hit it again on Thursday).
As soon as I cycled off of Tesa, I flushed 4lbs of water retention. I thought it did well. Joints did get achy at the end. Will cycle again before I wear a bathing suit this Summer.
 
chewonmysac said:
As soon as I cycled off of Tesa, I flushed 4lbs of water retention. I thought it did well. Joints did get achy at the end. Will cycle again before I wear a bathing suit this Summer.

How long did you cycle it?
 
Between the two, the fat-burning effect of Tesamorelin is way more significant. Both are really effective and would add a great deal to your current stack. I've used them both significantly for multiple cycles in the range of 12-16 weeks or so.

That said, I would personally not consider running IPA or TESA ever again since extremely high-quality HGH has become more readily available. From my perspective, growth delivers significantly more benefits for more areas beyond significant visceral/midsection leaning.
 
I found that even after fairly extreme weight loss from 145 to 75-80 or so kilos I still had a fairly high waist circumference of 98. A year of semaglutide made no difference, but it did drop 10 cm over the next 8 months on tirz 15mg plus reta 5mg, and it did seem to drop faster once I started lowish dose hgh 1.5iu/d. I lost about 13kg in that time, but it did seem to have a larger effect on visceral fat / waist circumference than just diet or semaglutide.
 
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