Peptides and Fasting question

[ftv10hb]

For any peptides that are supposed to be taken in a fasted state, although I am specifically curious about GHRP-2 and similar ones where my understanding is that eating too soon or after can affect the insulin response and dilute the effect of the peptide, does anyone know or have an opinion about whether the fasting would include avoiding zero sugar drinks? I tend to have zero sugar sodas/teas/etc in the morning or before bed, I've sort of assumed that because there is no sugar or calories that these don't count against the fasting and aren't affecting my peptides, but am I wrong in that and do they still trigger some sort of insulin response that could interfere with them? I'm ok switching to just water around dosing if necessary, but would much prefer to be able to stick with my zero sugar drinks if it doesn't make a difference lol.

 

[Gr33dyOctopus]

For any peptides that are supposed to be taken in a fasted state, although I am specifically curious about GHRP-2 and similar ones where my understanding is that eating too soon or after can affect the insulin response and dilute the effect of the peptide, does anyone know or have an opinion about whether the fasting would include avoiding zero sugar drinks? I tend to have zero sugar sodas/teas/etc in the morning or before bed, I've sort of assumed that because there is no sugar or calories that these don't count against the fasting and aren't affecting my peptides, but am I wrong in that and do they still trigger some sort of insulin response that could interfere with them? I'm ok switching to just water around dosing if necessary, but would much prefer to be able to stick with my zero sugar drinks if it doesn't make a difference lol.

As far as i k kw the zero sugar and calorie drinks dont upset a fast. I mean even so.ething with 20 calories shouldnt upset a fast. The best thing you can take is LMNT sticks when fasting, in my experience anyway. If i do a 48 hour fast, especially on glp1, need that potassium, sodium and magnesium, and therez artificial.sweeteners in those too

 

[yrrdead]

As far as i k kw the zero sugar and calorie drinks dont upset a fast. I mean even so.ething with 20 calories shouldnt upset a fast. The best thing you can take is LMNT sticks when fasting, in my experience anyway. If i do a 48 hour fast, especially on glp1, need that potassium, sodium and magnesium, and therez artificial.sweeteners in those too

If you like grape this electrolyte powder is fire, less convenient than LMNT packets but great profile and less expensive.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D3T248FJ

warning that carrot or beet derived color will stain.

 

[chelsea daggerz]

For any peptides that are supposed to be taken in a fasted state, although I am specifically curious about GHRP-2 and similar ones where my understanding is that eating too soon or after can affect the insulin response and dilute the effect of the peptide, does anyone know or have an opinion about whether the fasting would include avoiding zero sugar drinks? I tend to have zero sugar sodas/teas/etc in the morning or before bed, I've sort of assumed that because there is no sugar or calories that these don't count against the fasting and aren't affecting my peptides, but am I wrong in that and do they still trigger some sort of insulin response that could interfere with them? I'm ok switching to just water around dosing if necessary, but would much prefer to be able to stick with my zero sugar drinks if it doesn't make a difference lol.

Artificially sweetened beverages cause minimal to no insulin response. This attached systematic review and meta analysis shows postprandial glucose, insulin, GLP-1, GIP, PYY, ghrelin, and glucagon responses are similar to water controls.

 

[Gr33dyOctopus]

If you like grape this electrolyte powder is fire, less convenient than LMNT packets but great profile and less expensive.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D3T248FJ

warning that carrot or beet derived color will stain.

Yea I looked into a lot of things, only use those expensive ass lmnts when fasting so dont mind.

 

[yrrdead]

Yea I looked into a lot of things, only use those expensive ass lmnts when fasting so dont mind.

Chatgpt? Almost as bad as a PCP when it comes to nutrition. Americans need to ingest more sodium in their diet like I need a second head.

 

[randompersonrandom]

Chatgpt? Almost as bad as a PCP when it comes to nutrition. Americans need to ingest more sodium in their diet like I need a second head.

That's not fair; what if the second head was sentient? Then you'd always have double the ideas and a second set of eyes for every risk you ever took. Also, if you didn't want to answer the phone but really should, you could outsource to it. Of course, that would mean you'd have to agree who was the real head and who was the second one, and that might cause some complexity.

 

[ftv10hb]

Artificially sweetened beverages cause minimal to no insulin response. This attached systematic review and meta analysis shows postprandial glucose, insulin, GLP-1, GIP, PYY, ghrelin, and glucagon responses are similar to water controls.

That's great, that's exactly what I was hoping, and good to see it was from data over many studies as well. Thank you!

 

[chelsea daggerz]

Artificially sweetened beverages cause minimal to no insulin response. This attached systematic review and meta analysis shows postprandial glucose, insulin, GLP-1, GIP, PYY, ghrelin, and glucagon responses are similar to water controls.

 

[chelsea daggerz]

That's great, that's exactly what I was hoping, and good to see it was from data over many studies as well. Thank you!

Did the attachment go through? I just clicked on it and I couldn’t pull it up. It’s called “The Effect of Non-Nutritive Sweetened Beverages on Postparandial Glycemic and Endocrine Responses” Zhang et al

 

[ftv10hb]

Did the attachment go through? I just clicked on it and I couldn’t pull it up. It’s called “The Effect of Non-Nutritive Sweetened Beverages on Postparandial Glycemic and Endocrine Responses” Zhang et al

Yep! Went thru for me anyway, I was able to download it