Need advice on Quing Le Peptides

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BigGuy73 said:
I’ve been ordering from these people for about 2 months now using mainly their tirz and glow. It’s too early to tell with the glow but the tirz seems to be working. My concern is when I ordered the tirz I also ordered a supply of Reta and they both came in those little 10 vial storage containers that both had the same yellow tops and the same manufacturer date. The rep, DraLene, assured me that it was just a coincidence and that everything is fine but today I got my order of MOTS C and the manufacturer date is 9/15/25 with today’s date being 9/12/25! I sent her a message demanding an explanation but regardless my trust in this company is gone. What do you guys think? Do you guys think they just slapped these stickers on without paying attention but the product is real?Should I use it? Here are some pictures

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I’ve ordered from them plenty of times and never had an issue. They’re pretty professional in their messaging. Shipping is twice the cost but they usually have my orders in before I even get tracking from most other vendors. They never promote themselves though and I never see them anywhere but you’re good to go.
 
BigGuy73 said:
I only came here for advice not to be berated. I’ve had success with 2 other vendors with no problems and I saw this one all over TT and they had coas, I didn’t know how much more I was supposed to verify. Plenty of suppliers that have good reps can suddenly start to selectively scam people, this grey market is a gamble
I don't think anyone here means to "berate" you. Everyone here is on your side. It's just allot of mistakes are made from moving too fast before learning. These threads are filled with cautionary tales to help you and others avoid trouble. All you gotta do is dig and dig some more.

I for one, hope your stuff is good. But I also hope your next purchase takes into account the things you learn from here.
 
Thanks for your reply buddy. Other than what I’ve described and the shitty communication they have been pretty solid. I’ve even ordered testosterone from them and the packaging was very professional. If they were in the business of ripping people off I doubt they would be in business as long as they’ve been
 
And one of the things you learn here is that vendor COAs are worthless. It can't be assumed that the vial they send in is from the batch it's represented to be from.
 
indolent said:
And one of the things you learn here is that vendor COAs are worthless. It can't be assumed that the vial they send in is from the batch it's represented to be from.
Jumping on some testing is money well spent. Even solo, $500 to test a vial or two from a 4 kit order spreads out nicely compared to other procurement methods!
 
Consider that there's a middle option, instead of tossing the whole batch, or springing full price for personal testing: the scammers manipulating test results for profit at Finnrisk.com will do free testing if you send them one vial after registering, and it's just a 10% loss/1 vial. There's much debate about them, but on balance it's an easy and cheap way to get a probably-valid COA or proof of crapitude. Just not quick. 🙂
 
I have heard of, but not used them. Could be a labeling issue or a lie, but because they’ve consistently tested well I wouldn’t be throwing product out. Everything I’ve seen from them has been positive, but I understand not wanting to use them anymore.
 
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Could be a labeling issue or a lie

I guess I'm a little more forgiving of the labeling, because it's clear that these peptides get shipped unlabeled for a number of reasons - chief among them to reduce import and customs difficulties, and for sheer volume. In the supply chain from lab manufacturer to wholesaler to rep or independent seller, I have to assume the individual kits never get a label until shortly before the final end/retail sale (and per-vial labels seem to cost 10x markup...). As long as it tests accurate to content, fill/dosage, and expected purity, pretty much all else slides right on by in these parts.
 
3Ljeffy said:
I guess I'm a little more forgiving of the labeling, because it's clear that these peptides get shipped unlabeled for a number of reasons - chief among them to reduce import and customs difficulties, and for sheer volume. In the supply chain from lab manufacturer to wholesaler to rep or independent seller, I have to assume the individual kits never get a label until shortly before the final end/retail sale (and per-vial labels seem to cost 10x markup...). As long as it tests accurate to content, fill/dosage, and expected purity, pretty much all else slides right on by in these parts.
Yeah, this wouldn’t bother me, but I have been sourcing ugl before items were ever dated or had batch numbers.
 
3Ljeffy said:
I guess I'm a little more forgiving of the labeling, because it's clear that these peptides get shipped unlabeled for a number of reasons - chief among them to reduce import and customs difficulties, and for sheer volume. In the supply chain from lab manufacturer to wholesaler to rep or independent seller, I have to assume the individual kits never get a label until shortly before the final end/retail sale (and per-vial labels seem to cost 10x markup...). As long as it tests accurate to content, fill/dosage, and expected purity, pretty much all else slides right on by in these parts.
If you had a facility full of vials of white powder that all look the same, do you think it would be a good idea to wait to label them until shortly before the final retail sale?

I don't think this is the case.
 
byefatlicia said:
If you had a facility full of vials of white powder that all look the same, do you think it would be a good idea to wait until shortly before the final retail sale?

I don't think this is the case.
To be clear, if I had a receiving facility full of sealed cases with lot numbers and shipping/tracking numbers that I can check separately against a manifest electronically sent by the manufacturer, and if we're really diligent I get the cap color per batch and visually spot-check a sample from a few cases-->boxes-->kits-->vials in each shipment... and then pull a vial from each case (maybe 1:600-1000) and send it to a lab for testing? And by doing this I have a minuscule error rate and save possibly two orders of magnitude cost versus demanding retail-level labeling? I think that's absolutely the case, no pun intended.

I've worked in at-scale logistics, and the end unit label on something the size of a 3ml vial isn't authoritative if it even exists until very late in production, because effective quality control has to happen much earlier and at a vastly larger scale in order to be effective and practicable. Throw in the hurdle of semi-hostile import/export processes, and there's a large incentive to delay or dispense with as much labeling as possible. That means missing or sloppy labeling is happening at the distributor level not the manufacturer; a lesser problem in my mind, as long as the item is correct.

Would I prefer better information as an end-unit consumer? Yeah, I'm with you there. But my very first grey order for one T60 kit from a retail site cost $1050 (ugh), and the most recent from a US vendor here was $260.... and the going rate from CN-shipped is $200. With the 75%-80% savings, I send a few vials out for testing to assuage my brain, and bought my own label printer to assuage my nerves.

TL;DR: It's all cool, but as the old guy said: trust but verify.
 
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