hgh and time reconstituted

[Calm Logic]

By the way, does anyone know of a vendor or group that does endotoxin testing on HGH? Uther's endo results looked very good:

Janoshik Analytical

But I don't have $800 to burn for a minimum order.

I did just find this, by Lobster, which tested even better:

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/the-lobster-international-au-canada-and-eu-domestic-hgh-peptides-and-turkish-pharmacy.134424891/post-3718415

https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/105702-Lobster_Vanilla_150_IU_QG6CPTX7RTQL

So I guess I will get Lobster from a cheap reseller, if I continue to use HGH instead of tesa. Lobster also seems to have no dimer, usually.

Lobster's minimum order is $800 now, just like Uther. Crazy with a capital C.

 

[Omxxl]

Has anyone tried HGH from ERP? It says "high quality."

I think I'll order a 6-month supply at 2 IU daily if the vial doesn't degrade. This forum is very helpful. Thank you very much.

 

[SeaGypsy]

Has anyone tried HGH from ERP? It says "high quality."

I think I'll order a 6-month supply at 2 IU daily if the vial doesn't degrade. This forum is very helpful. Thank you very much.

I did, been using with no issues. Everything I have gotten from them has been good.

 

[sfkid]

By the way, does anyone know of a vendor or group that does endotoxin testing on HGH? Uther's endo results looked very good:

Janoshik Analytical

But I don't have $800 to burn for a minimum order.

I did just find this, by Lobster, which tested even better:

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/the-lobster-international-au-canada-and-eu-domestic-hgh-peptides-and-turkish-pharmacy.134424891/post-3718415

https://verify.janoshik.com/tests/105702-Lobster_Vanilla_150_IU_QG6CPTX7RTQL

So I guess I will get Lobster from a cheap reseller, if I continue to use HGH instead of tesa. Lobster also seems to have no dimer, usually.

Lobster's minimum order is $800 now, just like Uther. Crazy with a capital C.

kits4less.com has 0 dimmer or very low dimmer HGH, all batches have COAs. Its not as cheap as from China but not too bad either. There is $450 min order , last time I checked.

 

[MrBMG]

I store all my hgh in fridge. Started at 2iu, titrated up to 4, been at 6iu in a bulk. It’s been a fun, yet wild ride. Haven’t had to worry about degrading as of yet as I’m usually done with a vial in 6/7 days. No sides until 6iu in bulk. Water retention, with little cts the first couple weeks. Been coasting since. Took a break from Reta as I wasn’t wanting to cut any longer although it helped tremendously keeping bg/fbg damn near hypo. Been off it for 5 weeks and bg is creeping up which was expected, but still not even in 90’s. High 70’s to mid 80’s most evenings and mornings. I’ve got 24iu kits up to 100iu kits. Also I filter as well.

Baseline igf/z : 145/0

Current : 292/1.7

 

[sfkid]

I store all my hgh in fridge. Started at 2iu, titrated up to 4, been at 6iu in a bulk. It’s been a fun, yet wild ride. Haven’t had to worry about degrading as of yet as I’m usually done with a vial in 6/7 days. No sides until 6iu in bulk. Water retention, with little cts the first couple weeks. Been coasting since. Took a break from Reta as I wasn’t wanting to cut any longer although it helped tremendously keeping bg/fbg damn near hypo. Been off it for 5 weeks and bg is creeping up which was expected, but still not even in 90’s. High 70’s to mid 80’s most evenings and mornings. I’ve got 24iu kits up to 100iu kits. Also I filter as well.

Baseline igf/z : 145/0

Current : 292/1.7

what Reta dose were you on? Do you split dose H half am half pm?

 

[MrBMG]

what Reta dose were you on? Do you split dose H half am half pm?

When I started 2mg 2x/wk (2mg M/2mg F). up to 4mg 2x/wk for a totally of 8mg. Weight was flying off. Weightloss turned into a recomp, which turned into a cut lol. From 255-207.

I’ve always bolus dosed pm. When trying to cut, 2 hours after last meal before bed.. Here as of late there’s times an hour after I’ve eaten I’ll check bg and if under 100 I’ll go ahead and pin. In a deficit it’s hard getting that igf up but it’s great for fat lipolysis. In a surplus I’ve had great results. All around for recovery, hair, skin, and nails it’s badass. Currently sitting at a solid 235. Was trying to get up close to 245-250 before 2 more weeks but I don’t see that happening. In a deficit I was running 2000 cals. Since 1/12/26 I’ve been at 3500 calories.

 

[sfkid]

When I started 2mg 2x/wk (2mg M/2mg F). up to 4mg 2x/wk for a totally of 8mg. Weight was flying off. Weightloss turned into a recomp, which turned into a cut lol. From 255-207.

I’ve always bolus dosed pm. When trying to cut, 2 hours after last meal before bed.. Here as of late there’s times an hour after I’ve eaten I’ll check bg and if under 100 I’ll go ahead and pin. In a deficit it’s hard getting that igf up but it’s great for fat lipolysis. In a surplus I’ve had great results. All around for recovery, hair, skin, and nails it’s badass. Currently sitting at a solid 235. Was trying to get up close to 245-250 before 2 more weeks but I don’t see that happening. In a deficit I was running 2000 cals. Since 1/12/26 I’ve been at 3500 calories.

Amazing..

Just did my igf and fasting glucose before start my HGH cycle this week.

Baseline/z: 188/.7

Fasting Insulin: 7

Im on Reta 6MG per week which is effing amazing for insulin. Miracle drug...

I started this week on 2iu (1iu am fasted, 1iu pm fasted)... Already want to move up to 4iu . But will wait 8 weeks to get another IGF test before pushing it.

My IGF base line is already above normal for my age so I have take it slow and test.

 

[Calm Logic]

For a relatively high 4 iu dose, it seems safer to split into morning and bedtime:

https://www.thinksteroids.com/community/threads/running-4iu-hgh-growth-guys-canada-pre-natty-igf-1-and-2-months-post.134437894/

I got pre natty IGF-1 tested about 6 months ago and it came in at 200. I've since been using 4IU daily HGH(1.5IU upon waking before fasted cardio and 2.5IU before bed) for the last 2 months and my IGF-1 came in at 384(Last HGH dose was 11 hours before bloods were taken).

 

[IronPaw.]

Above is correct, per the guys at Meso.

For reconned HGH, about 9 percent degradation after 10 days (which is still surprising compared to GLPs), but only 14 percent degradation after 30 days:

https://www.thinksteroids.com/community/threads/hgh-potency-degradation-after-being-reconstituted.134434753

For HGH powder, fridge is usually preferred at Meso (by my favorite posters anyway), unless storing for more than one year or so.

Ok that is interesting, i bought a kit of 36IU HGH and put 9 straight into the freezer, vacuum sealed.

It's not going to take me a year to get through them, is it better for less degradation to use the fridge in future?

 

[IronPaw.]

Yeah, there is definitely no consensus at Meso about freezing HGH powder. Some will never freeze it. But then again, some there will never freeze any peptide.

They worry about the freeze-thaw cycles with regular (auto-defrost) freezers, but they don't usually mention using something like HydraPeak or Thermos.

Ahh ok, i use an old school freezer that doesn't auto defrost.

 

[Calm Logic]

Ahh ok, i use an old school freezer that doesn't auto defrost.

Yeah, there you go. If the HGH powder was super fragile, it wouldn't survive summer delivery anyway, in hot trucks in 110+ degree heat. But it does just fine with recon, etc.

 

[OldManStrength]

Great information, so much information to sort through this really helps!

 

[GTS97]

Ok that is interesting, i bought a kit of 36IU HGH and put 9 straight into the freezer, vacuum sealed.

It's not going to take me a year to get through them, is it better for less degradation to use the fridge in future?

At the rate you will be (likely) be using it, it doesn’t make much sense to put them in the freezer. I feel like that’s similar to buying and freezing a pork butt on Monday that you’re smoking on Saturday.

 

[Calm Logic]

At the rate you will be (likely) be using it, it doesn’t make much sense to put them in the freezer. I feel like that’s similar to buying and freezing a pork butt on Monday that you’re smoking on Saturday.

It likely doesn't matter one way or the other.

At some unknown point, maybe over a year from now, freezing would start to be better regarding degradation. Freezing even lyophilized is always technically better for preventing bacterial growth.

Some guys take a break from HGH anyway, either cycling or using something else instead.

 

[GTS97]

It likely doesn't matter one way or the other.

At some unknown point, maybe over a year from now, freezing would start to be better regarding degradation. Freezing even lyophilized is always technically better for preventing bacterial growth.

Some guys take a break from HGH anyway, either cycling or using something else instead.

Right, if it’ll be that long, then of course.