"HCG monotherapy" – I tried it so you didn't have to!

[birdwhacker]

whoa! You really hate testosterone, huh? So 1000 being normal is bro-science for you? If facts are bro-science, then there really is no point in engaging further. Conversing in good faith in the presence of unwarranted vitriol is likely to lower our testosterone. Hard pass! You do you, sir. Have a pleasant night.

You tell him!

Honestly, why are you guys raging over this?

Personally? I just don't like Calm Logic.

But hey, your own stance on hcg... I dont know who you want to fool by claiming you're pregnant, but there are easier ways to make money, you know. You dont need glucose daddies and child support hustles.

I have no idea what this means

 

[Meritocrat]

You tell him!

Personally? I just don't like Calm Logic.

I have no idea what this means

Well, I couldn't find calm or logic in that location so there is no question of me disliking anything or anybody. Who knows, there might be some testosterone-related trauma languishing around there. I certainly am not going to ridicule someone for wanting low T. That stuff is real and it is diabolical.

No idea what that means, huh? Let's see now, after you stab yourself with enough HCG, buy a pregnancy test and piss on it. If things work out, it will show you are "pregnant" because that HCG in urine is how that test detects gestation. But like you know, PCT is non-negotiable. We gotta do what we must, and sacrifices must be made.

 

[birdwhacker]

No dog in the fight other than my test levels being funky due to weight and im interested in the dialog along the way. Feels like hcg gets people awnry like enclomiphene does lol.

I'll keep you posted when I hop on LOL. Gotta see if it's all it's cracked up to be.

There's a reason that decent folk shy away from SARMs.

 

[quicksilver80]

I'll keep you posted when I hop on LOL. Gotta see if it's all it's cracked up to be.

There's a reason that decent folk shy away from SARMs.

Isnt enclo a serm anyways. Tomato tomato. This aint veggie tales. That Umbrella price really makes it enticing. Even if they have the bed side manners of a honey badger apparently. Even if it works great for you it could work terrible for anyone else. Something Something about raining different human unmentionables.

 

[quicksilver80]

A wise man once said, "If you so desired, you could do 15% of a backflip and wreck your shit right here on the sidewalk." No one is stopping you!

That same wise man like i had mentioned earlier said, " it could be raining tiddies outside and somehow you always get hit in the head with a dick". Which is my reason for pause and contemplation lol

 

[BlueDog55]

Many guys get to high normal without test by boosting their mid-range level of testosterone. Or they can get their free testosterone higher.

The only guys needing a test level of 1000+ are the ones going to prison or the ones working there.

You are way off the rails now. First off everyone is different, everyone has different test levels there is no set number that is the correct number. Do you think a retired NFL player would feel good with test of 4-500? When he spent his youth to his 40's at 1800? Do you think the little dude that couldn't lift his own body weight up in his 20's needs a test level of 4-500 to feel good when he's in his 50's? The range #s they use are a joke, they avg 18 to 80 year olds and set a number...

 

[birdwhacker]

Though, the thread seems to support that HCG isn't the magic bullet that most are looking for. Total T of 300-500 isn't very impressive.

Though starvation reduces LH signaling, so HCG might be useful for those of us cutting aggressively with GLPs.

 

[tendency]

Started at 200IU IM ED. Went to 400iu EOD.

27yo male

Balls got a little bigger. More morning erections. Better daytime energy. Some mild acne to begin with. A bit more fluid production.

Then a week later the benefits became hard to distinguish so I stopped.

My dad, 54 year old male, was also on and I took him off. He got more acne than me, presumably because he's fatter and aromatized more estrogen and potentially gained more test since his natural levels were lower. He has the same thing happen, better energy, some acne, and then went right back to square one.

Just doesn't seem worth it to mess with your hormones like this with HCG unless you're using it for fertility purposes or with a cycle of SARMs or exogenous test.

If you want to boost your test, HCG isn't gonna do it.

I've been on HCG for about 15 years. Started a few years after beginning TRT to maintain fertility and ball size. Let's be honest: TRT will turn your grapes into raisins and I don't know too many men that don't get a little distraught by this. As my low T was secondary in nature I've been able to maintain ~80-90% of my 'size' and fertility on 300iu e3d.

It's also allowed me to reduce my exogenous T by about 30% which is a good thing, IMO. I simply feel better keeping the boys working; HCG has a definite mood enhancing effect for me.

Personally, would not take if my endocrine and T systems were functioning normally.

 

[birdwhacker]

c*m stack you say? Enlighten us...

There's been a great deal of research on the subject.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cumbiggerloads/comments/1pnmgs6/the_2026_stack_top_semen_enhancing_ingredients

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/cumbiggerloads/comments/1pnmgs6/the_2026_stack_top_semen_enhancing_ingredients/

 

[aepower2016]

c*m stack you say? Enlighten us...

@birdwhacker knows the way lol. Personally I used

Zinc - 30mg

Vitamin D3 - 1000IU

Lecithin - 1200mg

Pygeum -

L-Citrulline

Yohimbine - 17mg

Selenium

I don't remember dosage for all of them but it worked great for me.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

@birdwhacker knows the way lol. Personally I used

Zinc - 30mg

Vitamin D3 - 1000IU

Lecithin - 1200mg

Pygeum -

L-Citrulline

Yohimbine - 17mg

Selenium

I don't remember dosage for all of them but it worked great for me.

Cool, just curious. For research purposes...

 

[tendency]

But God forbid someone wants their test to be 20% outside of reference range.

It's probably fine to be above reference range as long as your hematocrit is not. Main problem is for the vast majority of people that take T getting above ref negatively impacts 'crit - and that's not something to mess around with.

 

[Skidude]

Careful - you can blow out your receptors taking HCG that frequently.

I "feel" like the hcg combined with trt is doing what it should, but recently have some concerns about how long a 5000iu vial lasts at 250iu 2x a week.

Even the box states "single use".

Do you have any feedback on that?

or anyone else?

hope I am not hijacking your thread @birdwhacker , but it seems like a similar subject even if not monotherapy.

my main goals are to prevent atrophy and allow pct if needed.

Current numbers are good with 875/26 total/free and 17E

Thoughts?