FDA Issues 7 Warning Letters to RUO Peptide Sellers
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They saw through the GLP1-S, GLP1-T, GLP1-R labeling BS. Who would have thought? The twist is that if the vendors sold BAC also, the FDA says that's proof of intent for human consumption. That's new. With Amazon pulling BAC as well, it's looking like a pattern.
What do you think the evolution in strategy for clearweb retailers might be? Creating an index of products hosted by a third party for sites / obfuscation?Chili777 said:
Hoping it doesn't lead to more closures.
AYarter
GLP-1 Apprentice
Yup. That's the next enforcement mechanism. God forbid people who aren't rich get healthy.Chili777 said:
Sid the SeaGull
GLP-1 Enthusiast
What are the chances the FDA keeps up to date with Redit , social media and forums such as this ?
it would be simple for the authorities to ask agentic AI to create a report predicting types and volumes of peptides entering a country. If they are not already doing this , it's probably coming in the future. However it would likely be extremely inaccurate given the amount of misinformation out there.
I'm not sure if this forum is able to be read without a login, but forums and are only visible by members that have set up a login provides some protection to AI internet scraping
it would be simple for the authorities to ask agentic AI to create a report predicting types and volumes of peptides entering a country. If they are not already doing this , it's probably coming in the future. However it would likely be extremely inaccurate given the amount of misinformation out there.
I'm not sure if this forum is able to be read without a login, but forums and are only visible by members that have set up a login provides some protection to AI internet scraping
Waterheater
GLP-1 Apprentice
All I can say is that the FDA does what they are supposed to do. They should warn about buying unapproved peptides. This public statement doesn't change much imo
UpDownLeftRightAS*
GLP-1 Apprentice
That is an excellent observation!!! (BAC = FDA determination of Intent). Seems like a leap as well.Chili777 said:
It's fun to imagine a world where (post the supreme court striking down Chevron deference) the FDA gets severely neutered by losing a court case, but even if that happens pharma has deep enough pockets where a new law would just get passed. Or at least that's what happened when existing copyright law wasn't good enough for the entertainment industry and the DMCA got rolled out.UpDownLeftRightAS* said:
I mean unless you're volunteering to start paying for the web hosting and other costs to maintain (such that the site doesn't need advertisers), this site is unlikely to "go private." And in that event, there are other more private discussion forums of that sort that already exist and are locked down.Sid the SeaGull said:
headward
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I am tempted to buy in bulk, but then I remember they process 4 million parcels per day, major enforcement will cost hundreds of million for new staff and equipment, and it will take 6-12 months. This is not a national security issue ffs. Odds they get 10%+ of parcels are very low imho. TACO would probably be happy with a few wholesale shipment headlines like the recent one and call it a day.
Eli Lilly and Novo can cry about it, but the majority of glp1 users still buy from them. They will still be able to sell at a 40,000% markup from what it costs to manufacture. Same reason I don't see gray market going away anytime soon.
Eli Lilly and Novo can cry about it, but the majority of glp1 users still buy from them. They will still be able to sell at a 40,000% markup from what it costs to manufacture. Same reason I don't see gray market going away anytime soon.
Neurogroot
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It’s interesting you bring this up. This statement feels increasingly true as time goes on. I was trying to explain this to family while visiting this past weekend. Forget the cost of pharma for a second and just consider the bloodwork/labs being run. The lowest I was able to get down to for mine was around $250. It had the basics:AYarter said:
-Basic Metabolic, Basic CBC, Standard Lipid Panels
-Basic Thyroid (TSH)
-Hemoglobin A1C
-High sensitivity CRP and RF testing (for inflammation issues)
-PsA testing
-Liver Function Panel
All this was $105, which is palatable. But the bigger deals to me, right now, are the last 2 tests.
-Testosterone Immunoassay
-IGF-1 LC/MS
Those two alone cost $145 together… On sale. Not covered by insurance of course.
I thought I was clever and got the Testosterone and IGF1 as standalones after a physician visit when I got the usual full panel bloodwork done to save a little. This was before I did the peptide journey, and actually was a contributing factor to beginning the journey.
I’d love to get another round of testing in now, and keep it up every 3-4 months. But I’m probably going to have to do 6 months or more. Not sure I can really spend nearly $1000/annually on bloodwork. Thing is, there were a ton of other tests I probably could benefit from, but we are talking adding 3-4x to the cost, which is exorbitant already.
Even if you’re middle class, no way you’re able to get the really beneficial testing, let alone treatment that could really optimize your life. Of course, my family is more old worldish and asked what I need these tests for in the first place.
I totally get that there’s money to be made with GLPs. The markup is crazy on it, and if there were truly no gray market, or even “reliable” compounders, it seems, like it would be truly hard to get. Outside of weight loss and body recomp, GLPs already do a ton of other interesting things from inflammation control to potential addiction curbing. What’s going to happen down the line when there’s a substance that can benefit almost everyone at even greater levels? Where we see a weird split of majority class dying at 75-80 if they’re lucky, and an incredibly small population of people living (even thriving) through 120, 130 and beyond. Sure, it’s a little sci-fi conspiracy theoryish but… who knows.
Anywho, customs snagging things has been a thing for as long as I remember. Ages ago, I rec’d a couple LLs regarding Modafinil. Nothing ever came from it, other than losing out on product occasionally. I think it’s important to not panic buy/hoard, but certainly build a reasonable stockup for just in case.
FarmgirlRebel
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Here is a letter a few of the ones received. These ones mostly got into hot water for being both resellers and having SKOOL boards that discussed dosing and protocols...as well as having bac water available on the resell site.
Mile High Compounds LLC - 721600 - 03/31/2026
Unapproved New Drugs Sold Over the Internet
www.fda.gov
PekCura Labs - 721709 - 03/31/2026
Unapproved New Drugs Sold Over the Internet
www.fda.gov
Lovega LLC dba Pink Pony Peptides - 721088 - 03/31/2026
Unapproved New Drugs Sold Over the Internet
www.fda.gov
Mile High Compounds LLC - 721600 - 03/31/2026
Unapproved New Drugs Sold Over the Internet
www.fda.gov
PekCura Labs - 721709 - 03/31/2026
Unapproved New Drugs Sold Over the Internet
www.fda.gov
Lovega LLC dba Pink Pony Peptides - 721088 - 03/31/2026
Unapproved New Drugs Sold Over the Internet
www.fda.gov
Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
Meanwhile, the website everyone knows is still doing great, despite alluding to their TG community on their website. So the FDA is still mysterious to me. I guess the BAC water was their major focus this time, as it was mentioned in the other letters as well.FarmgirlRebel said:
But who knows what they will be looking for next time. They do seem to continue to go after low hanging fruit.
The FDA is going after the low hanging fruit right now. Will that change? Maybe. These vendors got cocky and stopped playing by the RUO rules like they were supposed to be doing all along. The FDA always uses these notices as a way to send a message as much as or more than punishment. The vendors in the US will clean up their act and carry on, but they may be some fined and closed, if they don't clean up their act. The RUO rules just tightened up a bit with the BAC association as well.Hotlongs said:What do you think the evolution in strategy for clearweb retailers might be? Creating an index of products hosted by a third party for sites / obfuscation?
Hoping it doesn't lead to more closures.
woundcarping
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Neurogroot
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Wow! This is incredible! I am 100% going to check it out. I wish I could put a superhero reaction, or A+++ grade you for this, but if this works out, you have made my day! Thank you so much!woundcarping said:
kimmieko22
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So I had a theory with the website that does free peptide testing that mainly focused on GLP1. I'm almost curious was that the FDA behind it or big pharma. It made you list the company you bought it from before it sent you a free kit to test you peptide. I'm curious if this is how they know who to go after.
MTSpace
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Ironically I called Peptide Science the day before they were shutdown to inquire if they sold BAC water as I could not find it listed on their site. The response was no we do not offer BAC. Peptide Science was my secondary supplier of BPC-157 and TB500 and as I looked back at my past orders with them I never had bought BAC from them. I had an order in the cart but was going to research where to buy BAC water. My primary vendor at the time was out of stock. Luckily for me I never placed my order with Peptide Science as they were shutdown the next day.Chili777 said:
Curious to what letter they may have received since they did not sell BAC.
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