Extreme Intra-Batch Variability?

[Calm Logic]

Any wild stories from your own experience, or crazy reports on Discord?

Like big differences in fill or purity for vials supposedly from the same batch?

In other words, group testing that gives more questions than answers?

Just curious since I do group buys as my method of third-party testing. And I've only seen kosher results, including with the group test results people post elsewhere.

 

[Calm Logic]

Perfect timing, since @chmuse just posted a good example of variation in overfill:

Nexa overfill

Posting as an FYI only, as it tends to be mostly our newer users who would have these specific kits. If you have this batch, please be aware of the dose discrepancy and use with the possible 5mg variance between vials in mind. If you recon assuming 12mg and your batch is 17.4, and you plan to...

glp1forum.com

 

[nonyabizznez]

There's this one from Nexaph. Jano was available at time of purchase so informed buyers knew they were getting a good deal. Uniformed buyers were probably online complaining about side effects or claiming their product was over other vendor's Cagri. (overdosing).

Doesn't really fit your topic since the tested vials are consistent but notable none the less... 29% overfill on something like Cagri is significant!

Intra-Batch variables would be more disturbing. With this recent Nexaph disclosure to be safe I guess everyone should underdose if they're forced to keep it.

 

[chmuse]

GYC just had a batch of MT1 that went to a GB where one vial tested just under 3mg and the other 10mg on the dot. Was supposed to be a 10mg batch. (They're following up with more vials at another lab. I don't want to post their COA or the name of the GB without permission.)

Don't remember the vendor for sure so I don't want to call them out by name, but at the end of April there were vials of ghk-cu that were testing 2-3 times the expected fill.

In April there were t30's sent out that tested as t60's.

 

[chmuse]

I personally recently got kpv30's in place of 10's. They'd run out of 10 so they sent 30's instead. (Not a huge issue- they were labelled.)

 

[Calm Logic]

Don't remember the vendor for sure so I don't want to call them out by name, but at the end of April there were vials of ghk-cu that were testing 2-3 times the expected fill.

A group test COA of double-filled GHK-Cu from SRY is in my signature, posted by @Peloma.

 

[chmuse]

One of the group test COAs of double-filled GHK-Cu from SRY is in my signature, posted by @Peloma .

Since the forum updated I can't see signatures unless I switch to desktop mode.

 

[Calm Logic]

For posterity:

Ghk-cu 50mg overfill from SRY... I see this as a win! Be careful out there, folks. Check your stuff and then check again. You could have a bad day...

Headed home just to see if I hit the ghk jackpot...

 

[Calm Logic]

Over 50 percent overfill from TFC's T30 from the US warehouse (first two vials are China, last two are US warehouse):

Source: STG Testing Server on Discord

 

[toologic]

No personal experience but a GB received AOD where some vials had very little product compared to the others. They sent it out for testing.

 

[Calm Logic]

Another reminder not to try a higher dose when starting a new kit:

I was on 8mg. But because that new kit from GYC was 50mg I increased to 10mg the morning before the hiccups started. After the hiccups started I joined a test group and we sent 3 vials to Jano. All three were around 58mg each. So in reality I took almost 12mg the day before my nightmare began. So maybe going from 8 to 12 caused the issues.

 

[Peloma]

A group test COA of double-filled GHK-Cu from SRY is in my signature, posted by @Peloma .

I saw it as a win, but I can see where it could be an issue.

I was taking 3.4mg pins of the stuff when I thought I was at 1.7. I carried on through the protocol, and am honestly probably going to stick to a 3mg protocol. I love the mood altering and anti-inflammatory properties of GHK-CU by itself.

 

[Laxfinity]

GYC just had a batch of MT1 that went to a GB where one vial tested just under 3mg and the other 10mg on the dot. Was supposed to be a 10mg batch. (They're following up with more vials at another lab. I don't want to post their COA or the name of the GB without permission.)

Don't remember the vendor for sure so I don't want to call them out by name, but at the end of April there were vials of ghk-cu that were testing 2-3 times the expected fill.

In April there were t30's sent out that tested as t60's.

It was SRY. Their GHK-Cu has been consistently massively overfilled. The 50mg kit I bought in the beginning of the year tested between 71 - 73mg.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

Over 50 percent overfill from TFC's T30 from the US warehouse (first two vials are China, last two are US warehouse):

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Source: STG Testing Server on Discord

I don't know if this is the same incident cuz I thought tfc had overfill in May. Good Ole SRY had 100% overfill in April it wasn't tirz ret or sema...

 

[Airborne Daddy]

For posterity:

Sry has been the absolute worst company for the last 5 months consecutively.... I don't hear nothing about SSA and they're just as big.

 

[Calm Logic]

The only problem I see with SSA is, like SRY, they sometimes won't even reply if someone still has no tracking number for a while. The smaller vendors like WBS seem more responsive.

 

[YoYoFat]

I’m not on Reta, so it doesn’t concern me directly. But my favorite vendor recently reported significant intra-batch variability of their most recent Reta batch.

Someone in another forum said a variance of 20% between vials of the same batch is acceptable, even with T30mg vials, which would allow for 30s and 36s within the same batch. But to me, it’s gotta be less than 4% between vials of the same batch for it to feel safe.

 

[Delta]

I heard that most of the overseas vials are filled by hand which leads to the variability.