Dream Pen if you had essentially no limits no budget what would you want?

[FlowerFairy]

I had a Novopen for the exact amount of time it took try and remove the vile holder and break it. Complete waste of money. Mine (at least) was defective and or design flawed. I knew it had a counter, wasn't sure about any of the other features.

You can get a 3-d printed cart holder replacement from AmexBabushka on Telegram. Specify you need the Nova, because he makes them for convipens as well.

 

[FlowerFairy]

As I am going into my final year of engineering I need to start working on a finished project next year for my capstone design project, This gives me the unique opportunity to spend a gross amount of time and money and effort make something cool from the ground up. Right now I'm floating around the idea of making a injector pen just better more suited for the needs of the average peptide user and not for insulin delivery. My inspiration for this Project came from the Novo Nordisk Echo where its kind of smart but kind of eh for its electronics, to me it feels like it could be doing WAY more especially with the size of chips and electronics nowadays.

My question is as follows if you could have a pen that had XYZ features on it, that did XYZ what would you want it to do and why?

some things that i plan on including on the on the pen displayed already are as follows:

Substance - Total initial amount

Dose - total dose left

Dosing Schedule

Date/Time + Date Reconned / however days old the pep is

Previous Dose

Time till next Dose

Things that you would want can also be the following:

form Factor

general aesthetics

needles ( hidden or shown)

how you chose the dose

smartphone connectivity

Alarms

Cartridge loading and compatibility

Material/build quality

Thank you for reading this long message and if you have any ideas that you would like to share please don't hesitate to drop them in here ill be reading everything on this thread.

just as a disclaimer I'm not planning on bringing anything to market I don't have the CAPX for a project like that it is more likely I will post Code/CAD/manufacturing process after this is all done if this is the project I end up pursuing

I won’t even start on the fantasy pens I’d like (self- purging, set and forget on the dose until you manually change it, heavy enough to feel comfy in my hand and my favorite colors). Pens in existence? A green Luxura and a pink and a green Saavio. Maybe a black one too. But I’m too cheap to pay hundreds of dollars for a single pen.

 

[skeptick]

What do you have honestly I’m curious now I bet I could tear one apart and put it back together ( now I may have to record a 5 hour video of me doing it ) but it would be essentially research for me as I am trying to build one of these

Now you went and got my brain zooming in on what just might make pens operate more smoothly. Seems we'd only want to use a product that won't contaminate the products that the pens are designed to dispense. WD40 is primarily a penetrant that at 1st is not a particularly good lubricant, but gets better with time as the solvent evaporates but that evaporation continues until the WD becomes a thick waxy like substance that is a great protectant but not a great grease. I'm thinkin a small amount of a gun lubricant CLP (cleans,lubricates,protects) would serve as a more semi-permanent solution. Problems could arise because the spiral shaft of the pens I have examined are all some unknown plastic that could be attacked by the solvent carriers of what ever lube is used. The primary lubricant that is used in the CLP's I'm familiar with is Teflon and, as is WD, they are approved for use on food processing equipment. The spray on application of WD would coat all of the internals of a pen whereas CLP could be sparingly applied with a foam Q-Tip and would stay where applied. I have 2 V2s ,that I don't like, that I will try this out on. Depending on the results of that experiment, I have a V1 ,that is my current go-to pen, that I will consider for the same treatment I also have a new Savio that I have only used with water for trials of accuracy and smoothness after a couple dozen runs for break-in purposes that I like a lot which may be a candidate for this test. StandBy for reports to this thread...

Spent my working career as a research and development mechanic for a large aircraft manufacturer. Got to work with many highly skill mechanics and some incredibly smart engineers. If they could think it up and draw it, we got to build it. After all manner of extended torture tests, we got to test till destruction. Example is we bolted a test aircraft to the floor and lifted the wing tips till the wings broke. 16 feet and the boom of a shot gun blast then we got to tear it all down and sent the fuselage out to the bone yard.

 

[AlexSilver]

Any idea where it can be had?

They don’t like being named on a public forum. You will have to DM me.

 

[AlexSilver]

Now you went and got my brain zooming in on what just might make pens operate more smoothly. Seems we'd only want to use a product that won't contaminate the products that the pens are designed to dispense. WD40 is primarily a penetrant that at 1st is not a particularly good lubricant, but gets better with time as the solvent evaporates but that evaporation continues until the WD becomes a thick waxy like substance that is a great protectant but not a great grease. I'm thinkin a small amount of a gun lubricant CLP (cleans,lubricates,protects) would serve as a more semi-permanent solution. Problems could arise because the spiral shaft of the pens I have examined are all some unknown plastic that could be attacked by the solvent carriers of what ever lube is used. The primary lubricant that is used in the CLP's I'm familiar with is Teflon and, as is WD, they are approved for use on food processing equipment. The spray on application of WD would coat all of the internals of a pen whereas CLP could be sparingly applied with a foam Q-Tip and would stay where applied. I have 2 V2s ,that I don't like, that I will try this out on. Depending on the results of that experiment, I have a V1 ,that is my current go-to pen, that I will consider for the same treatment I also have a new Savio that I have only used with water for trials of accuracy and smoothness after a couple dozen runs for break-in purposes that I like a lot which may be a candidate for this test. StandBy for reports to this thread...

Spent my working career as a research and development mechanic for a large aircraft manufacturer. Got to work with many highly skill mechanics and some incredibly smart engineers. If they could think it up and draw it, we got to build it. After all manner of extended torture tests, we got to test till destruction. Example is we bolted a test aircraft to the floor and lifted the wing tips till the wings broke. 16 feet and the boom of a shot gun blast then we got to tear it all down and sent the fuselage out to the bone yard.

IMHO, the biggest problem with the cheaper pens is that the gears slip if you push the plunger too fast and sometimes even then. I would think that lube would make the problem worse…. I dunno.

 

[skeptick]

IMHO, the biggest problem with the cheaper pens is that the gears slip if you push the plunger too fast and sometimes even then. I would think that lube would make the problem worse…. I dunno.

I also experienced that skipping a tooth feeling the first time I used my first V2 , but to be fair, I was pretty much a gorilla doing it. No idea how much I actually injected. Have since gone back and done accuracy testing on all four of my pens using water, 2) V2s, 1) V1, and 1 Savio. They all proved accurate enough for me, functioned properly and felt smooth. I thought the V1 and the Savio felt better than the V2s. I ran a half dozen vials thru each of them to give them a break in. Have not yet used the Savio for Tirz. Just got some Cag that I'll load into it.

 

[arborealtrout]

The original Gansulin Auto-injector would be perfect if it only had a spring cap to hide the needle for injecting like the V2 does.

Ugh. Those dumb spring-loaded caps that prevent me from being able to see what I'm doing are my least-favorite thing about the V2.

 

[BBA1969]

I would love to try one of those needle-free high pressure injectors.

Just push agains your skin, push the button and BAM, all in a sec or two.

Loading stil is a hassle in those commercially available so my dream pen would be one of those but where you can just click in a vial, dial in the volume and fire away.

 

[Dilbert4Life]

Having only compared the Nova insulin Flexpen Mounjaro kwickpen and Lily Luxura reusable pen so my wish list may not be very helpful. But I would like

_ a reusable pen

_ that's smooth as the above ones

_ shows how many ml or units remaining in cartridge

_ comes with a cooling insulation sleeve for travelling in hot conditions

I don't think that's too much to ask at a reasonable price.