Dionysus spreadsheet
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exploitedworkerbee
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nah not drama at all. please, by all means, take this conversation over there, it is a far more appropriate place to have it. This is a welcome development as far as I’m concerned, so in all seriousness, go get your dio vendor recommendation spreadsheet there and we can drop this tired topic on glp1f.noteablequotable said:
Further discussion about the merits of this spreadsheet (along with the spreadsheet itself) can be found here: https://quallіgator.com/
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I don't mind if someone prepares a worse list. It's unlikely that someone would prepare a better list. Even a worse list is likely to have some information not present in the original.MarisWinter said:
scarywood75
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Why can't we organize a poll that experienced members can vote for the most reputable vendors, including the goods and bads for each?rkl123 said:
There isn't really any reason why we can't.scarywood75 said:
But, if I am going to be completely fair - Zippy owns this forum, and if I understand his intention correctly he wants an open discussion forum that doesn't really have any static or official sources.
Which may or may not force people to do their own research (I should be careful not putting words in Zippys mouth here, and I want to express that this is simply my understanding).
So at the end of the day, it does make sense to respect his original intention (Assuming I'm not completely off target with my assumptions).
There are always other channels.
Just my 2 unsolicited cents
exploitedworkerbee
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Sounds like a great way to look at things.Bacchus said:
scarywood75
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This is far, I guess I'm trying to find a solution, but I don't think there's one, or one that the majority agree toBacchus said:
I thought he removed it because people where sharing it else where, I saw it pop up in a FB group the other day and asked the girl to remove it, even thought you couldn't see anything because it was small and blurry...
You will probably hear around 5-20 different stories if you ask aroundXYaliX said:
At this point there is already a conclusion of some sort and beating a dead horse will only affect the board negatively imo
Let's discuss Ely Lilys mission to protect American consumers or something instead
exploitedworkerbee
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Oh I don’t know about any of that, I thought you were talking about the new forum which would be the best place to seek it out. At this point further discussion about it here doesn’t really make sense since you can go straight to the source who has the capacity to host it if they wish.XYaliX said:
noteablequotable
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Bacchus said:You will probably hear around 5-20 different stories if you ask around
At this point there is already a conclusion of some sort and beating a dead horse will only affect the board negatively imo
Let's discuss Ely Lilys mission to protect American consumers or something instead
Yeah I posted about that and no one is talking about it.
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exploitedworkerbee said:
It actually automatically embedded the link to my post. If you click on it you'll end up in the right place.
Graymaxxem
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You don't need a spreadsheet. Cultivate a network- aka relationships. Ask questions of someone whose vibe you like, who has been around longer than six months. Ideally, a few someones. Eventually you just take the plunge or go back to compound.
A spreadsheet- like a group buy guarantee- is a security blanket, an article of faith, because there are no guarantees and the only expert looks back at you from the mirror.
A spreadsheet- like a group buy guarantee- is a security blanket, an article of faith, because there are no guarantees and the only expert looks back at you from the mirror.
exploitedworkerbee
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Ok, it’s been a fun one but in the interest of trying to pull the forum back into normalcy I’m going to lock this thread now, and probably the other heavy drama threads a little later.
If you have questions about Dionysus’s spreadsheet you can ask them on his forum, as that’s much more appropriate than carrying on about the topic here.
If you have questions about Dionysus’s spreadsheet you can ask them on his forum, as that’s much more appropriate than carrying on about the topic here.
ZippityDooDah
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For the record neither myself nor any mod ever told Dionysos that he couldn't post/link his list on this forum.
As best as I can tell, his feelings were hurt after I mentioned in another post that folks shouldn't rely on any "list" as authoritative or reliable and should perform their own due diligence regarding any supplier or vendor. I can't take responsibility for other people's feelings, but I apologize for any feelings I may have hurt because as anyone can tell by everything I do here my ultimate desire is to foster an environment where people can educate themselves and each other, as well as give everyone the ability to recognize how to avoid dangerous situations whether it be unsafe products or dishonest vendors and while I often take a "tough love" approach to many of the things I post, I would never intentionally try to hurt someone's feelings.
There have been dozens if not hundreds of "lists" created by seemingly well-meaning people over the past several years, and unfortunately there is a discernable pattern of flaws with the vast majority of them. Whether they are flawed by including known scammers/dishonest sellers who provide bogus or altered test results, bad or questionable product (often with a "positive" rating or recommendation) , or because the author(s) lack the knowledge and experience to be able to recognize problematic vendors with a negative or questionable history, or - sadly - because some lists are assembled by people with a financial interest or other incentive (free/discounted products, affiliate bonuses, etc.), it's simply best to embrace the reality that you can never trust a list to do your work for you.
(To see a perfect example of an intentionally dishonest list, take a look at the one posted in the photo HERE and you'll see the mention of "cantides". What conveniently is NOT mentioned is that "Royal" is just another in a string of re-brands cooked up by the owner of Cantides, who is currently on something like name revision 7.2 to run from their bad reputation. Her Royal Dishonestness created a "list" under the guise of an alt ("alternate identity") to appear as if they were a kind and generous person simply trying to be helpful with their list when clearly the ulterior motive was to steer unsuspecting victims towards this weeks' new brand in order to rip them off with untested kits that she openly buys from random internet strangers to fill orders.)
To be clear: I am not saying that Dionysos' list is/was any of these things, but after two different vendors messaged me inquiring how they could be added to the list it became quite evident that it was important to raise awareness that it's best to view any lists with a significant dose of healthy skepticism since there's no way to know the true motivations of the creator(s).
Even if a list is free from all financial or self-interest, it will still be flawed since there is no way to account for every single vendor or every single customer experience - never mind the experience or lack thereof of the author(s) - and at best only serve as one of many tools in the toolbox of proper vendor/supplier vetting.
Self-injecting mystery powder is serious business, and people need to take a step back and think long and hard about what they're doing and who they're trusting when embarking on this journey. Relying on the advice/opinion of any one person or resource ( including ME ) to make those kind of decisions is foolish and dangerous! Stay safe out there, be smart, take things slowly, and do your own testing or get involved with crowdfunded testing!
As best as I can tell, his feelings were hurt after I mentioned in another post that folks shouldn't rely on any "list" as authoritative or reliable and should perform their own due diligence regarding any supplier or vendor. I can't take responsibility for other people's feelings, but I apologize for any feelings I may have hurt because as anyone can tell by everything I do here my ultimate desire is to foster an environment where people can educate themselves and each other, as well as give everyone the ability to recognize how to avoid dangerous situations whether it be unsafe products or dishonest vendors and while I often take a "tough love" approach to many of the things I post, I would never intentionally try to hurt someone's feelings.
There have been dozens if not hundreds of "lists" created by seemingly well-meaning people over the past several years, and unfortunately there is a discernable pattern of flaws with the vast majority of them. Whether they are flawed by including known scammers/dishonest sellers who provide bogus or altered test results, bad or questionable product (often with a "positive" rating or recommendation) , or because the author(s) lack the knowledge and experience to be able to recognize problematic vendors with a negative or questionable history, or - sadly - because some lists are assembled by people with a financial interest or other incentive (free/discounted products, affiliate bonuses, etc.), it's simply best to embrace the reality that you can never trust a list to do your work for you.
(To see a perfect example of an intentionally dishonest list, take a look at the one posted in the photo HERE and you'll see the mention of "cantides". What conveniently is NOT mentioned is that "Royal" is just another in a string of re-brands cooked up by the owner of Cantides, who is currently on something like name revision 7.2 to run from their bad reputation. Her Royal Dishonestness created a "list" under the guise of an alt ("alternate identity") to appear as if they were a kind and generous person simply trying to be helpful with their list when clearly the ulterior motive was to steer unsuspecting victims towards this weeks' new brand in order to rip them off with untested kits that she openly buys from random internet strangers to fill orders.)
To be clear: I am not saying that Dionysos' list is/was any of these things, but after two different vendors messaged me inquiring how they could be added to the list it became quite evident that it was important to raise awareness that it's best to view any lists with a significant dose of healthy skepticism since there's no way to know the true motivations of the creator(s).
Even if a list is free from all financial or self-interest, it will still be flawed since there is no way to account for every single vendor or every single customer experience - never mind the experience or lack thereof of the author(s) - and at best only serve as one of many tools in the toolbox of proper vendor/supplier vetting.
Self-injecting mystery powder is serious business, and people need to take a step back and think long and hard about what they're doing and who they're trusting when embarking on this journey. Relying on the advice/opinion of any one person or resource ( including ME ) to make those kind of decisions is foolish and dangerous! Stay safe out there, be smart, take things slowly, and do your own testing or get involved with crowdfunded testing!
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