This is why I hinted at the surgery. I myself refused surgery for my herniated disc but I fixed mine with stem cell and therapy.Elocin said:
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I'm lucky as I've about had everything but my neck and back operated on at this point. Mind you, I've easily had over 100 shots of Cortisone and got a Lumbar Facet Ablation next week and a Cervical Facet Ablation next month so I'm working on itElocin said:
It's rough and it's a slow burn with health care and specialists and trying to get relief can take along time. It doesn't always get better and it just comes down to managing it, with pills, therapy, peptides and rinse repeat. At what point am I just damaging myself needlessly and when should I slow down and try and preserve some quality of life. I don't have a high tolerance for pain, my expectations of what I need to do and can do have changed a lot the last couple years. Mowing grass, shoveling snow not really looking that cool anymore.I hope you have the time and means to look into alternate therapies and it would be interesting to hear how they work out for you. I hope I can explore that in a couple years after I catch up from peptide hoarding.
This is what I was afraid of.RubbaDubba1 said:I'm lucky as I've about had everything but my neck and back operated on at this point. Mind you, I've easily had over 100 shots of Cortisone and got a Lumbar Facet Ablation next week and a Cervical Facet Ablation next month so I'm working on it
I hope you have the time and means to look into alternate therapies and it would be interesting to hear how they work out for you. I hope I can explore that in a couple years after I catch up from peptide hoarding.
It's not fun, old age doesn't scare me so much as what can I do at that age. I'm only mid fifties, but my physical therapist says my Rap sheet reads more like I'm 70. He's not getting X-mas cardSmiter said:
Sorry, that's not what I meant. I just realized that I fvcked u p in communicating. Earlier in the thread, we were discussing disc problems and how the earliest intervention was most o ptimal due to the debilitating nature inherent to s pinal issues. Surgery was frowned u pon, so your terrifying post elucidated the negative and calamitous eventualities one would have to face. You were talking about quality of life, and I concur totally. That must be the ultimate goal.RubbaDubba1 said:It's not fun, old age doesn't scare me so much as what can I do at that age. I'm only mid fifties, but my physical therapist says my Rap sheet reads more like I'm 70. He's not getting X-mas card
When you first mentioned your state, I was immediately reminded of Hulk Hogan.RubbaDubba1 said:It's not fun, old age doesn't scare me so much as what can I do at that age. I'm only mid fifties, but my physical therapist says my Rap sheet reads more like I'm 70. He's not getting X-mas card
It's all good brother, I knew what you were saying. I feel like Elicon, is worse off than me. I don't believe I have chronic pain everyday like Elicon, I have periods (days or a couple weeks) of chronic pain. Being bedridden is physically and mentally horrifying to me, that's why if I can get up and go to work I do. I don't even have FMLA, so I get up and go!Smiter said:
I would love to dive in to Orthobiologics for my neck and back, but $$$ is the big issue. I'll take what insurance will pay for and I'll keep kicking the can down the road for a while. Once I get this other shoulder fixed, elbow and wrist. Then I can hopefully look in to the back and neck. Surgery doesn't bother me, it's the outcome on the other side that I look at. My shoulders will get fixed, elbows wrist will be better off for it. The neck and back???
Just minus the Millions, fame and glorySmiter said:
A word of warning for prednisone:
The side affects are insane and that stuff can and will kill you, given enough time. Quality of life is often weighed against the disease it is typically prescribed for. Men/amab will discover they have a higher risk of cancer if on a long term dose; with women/afab following close behind. https://aacrjournals.org/cancerprev...ong-Term-Glucocorticoid-Use-and-Cancer-Risk-A (it's also used in cancer treatment, ironically)
Immunosuppression
Osteoporosis/bone density loss
Hormone disruption (induced Hashimoto's, Exogenous Cushing's, etc.,)
Weight gain/increased appetite (voracious, really)
Moon face
Peripheral edema
RAGE/irritability
Intense mood swings
Numbness/tingling in extremities
Heart palpitations
And many more... It is cheap though!
The side affects are insane and that stuff can and will kill you, given enough time. Quality of life is often weighed against the disease it is typically prescribed for. Men/amab will discover they have a higher risk of cancer if on a long term dose; with women/afab following close behind. https://aacrjournals.org/cancerprev...ong-Term-Glucocorticoid-Use-and-Cancer-Risk-A (it's also used in cancer treatment, ironically)
Immunosuppression
Osteoporosis/bone density loss
Hormone disruption (induced Hashimoto's, Exogenous Cushing's, etc.,)
Weight gain/increased appetite (voracious, really)
Moon face
Peripheral edema
RAGE/irritability
Intense mood swings
Numbness/tingling in extremities
Heart palpitations
And many more... It is cheap though!
One can get hyperglycemia on the first day. The relative that was recently prescribed prednisone had to stop (titrating down aggressively) after day-one bloodwork showed a doubling of blood glucose, from 100 to 208.Cumulus said:
The 208 glucose was apparently from bloodwork done on the first day (highest dose), after an iced coffee with 40+ grams of sugar. At-home blood glucose was almost 170 at a lower dosage. No history of hyperglycemia but they are in their sixties, which is a risk factor for higher glucose spikes with prednisone.
Not peptides, but will still help:
Vitacost-Synergy 5-Loxin-AKBA Boswellia Extract -- 150 mg - 120 Capsules (on sale atm)
Econugenics, HonoPure®, 120 Vegetarian Capsules (250 mg per Capsule)
Doctor's Best, Curcumin Phytosome™, 180 Veggie Caps (500 mg per Capsule)
don't lowball on these meds; the purer, the better.
Vitacost-Synergy 5-Loxin-AKBA Boswellia Extract -- 150 mg - 120 Capsules (on sale atm)
Econugenics, HonoPure®, 120 Vegetarian Capsules (250 mg per Capsule)
Doctor's Best, Curcumin Phytosome™, 180 Veggie Caps (500 mg per Capsule)
don't lowball on these meds; the purer, the better.
I have bulged disc in my L4/5 S1 for 20+ years which internally caused hip pain knee pain muscle pain in my right leg. I have been taking Wolverine stack for 5 weeks and its alleviated all the pain in my hips and joints. I am more flexible now then ive been in years. It has not completely restored the disc but the inflammation has been minimized where it doesn't bother me hardly. I am back to running side to side movements and I feel at times I have been given back 20 years on my life! I also squatted the other day with zero pain and full mobility. BPC/TB has done wonders in my life.
I don’t know exactly why but my chronic pain from an L5-S1 bulge was instantly relieved by CJC no Dac + IpamorelinElocin said:From researching, I know that BPC-157, TB-500 and KPV are all peptides that can help with pain. I’m just not sure which one I should try first, as a newbie. Since I have a few different issues going on.
I suffer with Chronic pain. I have a few disc bulges and small tears in my c-spine, and have been undergoing testing for suspected MS. On top of all that, I was hit by a vehicle this past January, as a pedestrian.which, obviously, aggravated my neck issues and new back pain.
If I didn’t have bad luck, I would have no luck at all. lol. But any experiences or recommendations would be greatly appreciated!!
Guessing it was inflammation relief. The inflammation and flare ups is what hurts not the bulge itself
Once I had relief I could focus on my stretching and exercises.
Did about a month now trying to see how far I can go in my healing journey
Just coming back to update this.
I’ve been running just BPC (250mcg) for a few weeks now. I’ve definitely noticed a slight improvement in my pain.
Usually I’m out of commission for a day or two after chiro or physio.. not anymore.
I added in KPV last week, and my TB500 just got here today. Going to incorporate that, and increase the BPC, and see how it goes.
Oh, and I dropped the pain med.
Thank you to everyone for their recommendations!!
I’ve been running just BPC (250mcg) for a few weeks now. I’ve definitely noticed a slight improvement in my pain.
Usually I’m out of commission for a day or two after chiro or physio.. not anymore.
I added in KPV last week, and my TB500 just got here today. Going to incorporate that, and increase the BPC, and see how it goes.
Oh, and I dropped the pain med.
Thank you to everyone for their recommendations!!
I’m so pleased to hear that you’re feeling some improvement. I’d be keen to hear how you get on with KPV especially, as it’s offered me a lot of benefits.Elocin said:Just coming back to update this.
I’ve been running just BPC (250mcg) for a few weeks now. I’ve definitely noticed a slight improvement in my pain.
Usually I’m out of commission for a day or two after chiro or physio.. not anymore.
I added in KPV last week, and my TB500 just got here today. Going to incorporate that, and increase the BPC, and see how it goes.
Oh, and I dropped the pain med.
Thank you to everyone for their recommendations!!
I was paralyzed from a herniated disc when I was 25. Back then, I refused surgery and raw-dogged my way through it with chiro and physio, eventually regaining sensation and mobility.
What has helped me most over the years has been practicing inversions and strengthening the muscles around my spine for better support. If I’d had access to peptides back then, I probably would have doused myself in KPV.
Well Hell, couldn't take the pain no more. Next month I have an appointment for some PRP injections. I'm getting my C2 thru T1 done, Trigger Points on my upper traps, shoulder blades and a Hydrodissection of the Greater Occipital Nerves, for my Migraines. The Dr is surprised I don't have any neurological issues at all and still have some good strength in my arms at this point. I just literally started to get some bilateral shooting pains, down my arms a month ago and figured I better at least go talk to someone in this field. He thinks, I have a 50-70% chance of a favorable/good outcome. I know that doesn't sound like the most optimistic assessment in the world, but from what little research I've done to this point I'll take that!Elocin said:
I'm getting this done in town, going out the country wasn't really in the cards and I almost reached out the guy in Arizona with the video I linked. I think he was going to be even more expensive and the Dr here was in Network and at least the intial vist was covered. I thought you might be interested to see how this goes.
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