Air lock technique to minimize waste

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i would also say that if your doing 30 unit injections, use a 50 unit/.5ml syringe. i think more accurate and slightly less waste that a 100 unit in my opinion. no science tested, just observation.
 
It's wild how much weapons-grade overthinking can be solved by "ok, get a pen then."

It could also be solved by "oh for heaven's sake stop that" but people aren't going to do that, and I overthought when I was brand new too, so a pen probably is the more realistic solution to the tendency to weapons-grade overthink.

Don't like air in the vials? Ok, get a pen.

Don't like wasting a whole syringe very day? Ok, get a pen.

Don't like being confused about which pep is which? Ok, get several pens of different colors.

Don't like (whatever all this is)? Ok, get a pen.
 
Foggy-Hollow said:
How much do you think you’re losing?

A 25 gauge needles has a 0.01025” inner diameter.

If it is 1” long you’re losing 1.6 units. On a HUGE needle that most would draw oil with, not go sc with water based peps.

Many use 31 gauge, 1/2” length, that’s about 0.42u lost.
Also, strong agree with everything FH said, but if you're still agonizing...assuming you bought a kit of T-30 for $135 (it's prolly cheaper now, but that's what I paid in August when I was still buying 30's), and reconned it at 22mg/ml (which I do because I started on Brello and that's their dosage), then your waste for the 1.6 units (which would be bizarre to be using a needle that big anyway) would be about sixteen cents, and for the 0.42 units, four cents.

If some guy ran up to me, brandishing a syringe, and screamed "GIMMIE SIXTEEN CENTS OR I'LL INJECT A TINY AIR BUBBLE UNDER YOUR SKIN" I'd give bro the sixteen cents even if I had my pepper spray on me, because Jesus Christ, it's worth sixteen cents to avoid all that.
 
390120 said:
That’s what got me on this tangent today, I would dilute with more but my Bac water supplier is on back order for weeks now
injectionshop or underground supply both reasonable prices and fair shipping and deliver in a couple days....
 
skeptick said:
injectionshop or underground supply both reasonable prices and fair shipping and deliver in a couple days....
I ordered from these guys the beginning of Jan so I’m right at the cusp of getting my order… hopefully

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Just need to hold on a bit longer
 
randompersonrandom said:
It's wild how much weapons-grade overthinking can be solved by "ok, get a pen then."

It could also be solved by "oh for heaven's sake stop that" but people aren't going to do that, and I overthought when I was brand new too, so a pen probably is the more realistic solution to the tendency to weapons-grade overthink.

Don't like air in the vials? Ok, get a pen.

Don't like wasting a whole syringe very day? Ok, get a pen.

Don't like being confused about which pep is which? Ok, get several pens of different colors.

Don't like (whatever all this is)? Ok, get a pen.
I am definitely a weapons grade overthinker 😂😂😂
 
390120 said:
I usually use 3mL syringes because I get them for free but I recently used a 1mL syringe and realized how much product I'm losing after injection that is stuck in the barrel and needle of the syringe. Especially when reconstituting amounts such as 100mg of GHK-Cu with 3mL bac and injecting 0.1mL dosages.

Does anyone do this?

I might give it a try tonight with my injection
I use this chart.
 
Foggy-Hollow said:
Many use 31 gauge, 1/2” length, that’s about 0.42u lost.
Same gauge 31, but 5/16"L. How much loss there. I use .05 and 1ml BD's.
 
Stop being cheap and using a 3ml syringe because it's free. A 1ml insulin syringe is cheap, if you can afford peptides, then you can afford the correct equipment for your injection. Amazon has 25 1ml syringes with needle for $12.88 A 1ml syringe is much more accurate for dosing, and it won't have as much peptide left in the barrel, which is very little anyway. You probably have much more important things to worry about in your life.

Listen up, if you buy a box of 100mg GHK-CU for $50 , then you have 1000mg all together. That will give you 333, 3mg injections for a cost of 15 cents per injection. Seriously, are you going to risk injecting air for less than $0.15 😎
 
Lovedog100 said:
Stop being cheap and using a 3ml syringe because it's free. A 1ml insulin syringe is cheap, if you can afford peptides, then you can afford the correct equipment for your injection. Amazon has 25 1ml syringes with needle for $12.88 A 1ml syringe is much more accurate for dosing, and it won't have as much peptide left in the barrel, which is very little anyway. You probably have much more important things to worry about in your life.

Listen up, if you buy a box of 100mg GHK-CU for $50 , then you have 1000mg all together. That will give you 333, 3mg injections for a cost of 15 cents per injection. Seriously, are you going to risk injecting air for less than $0.15 😎
I used 3mL ones for TRT for years because I could get boxes of them, but I am using 1mL ones now because I can get those for free from work now too LOL

I didn't consider accuracy as much before since I was injecting larger quantities but since I started reconstituting with amounts such as 3mL BAC and injecting much smaller doses is when I noticed this
 
390120 said:
I used 3mL ones for TRT for years because I could get boxes of them, but I am using 1mL ones now because I can get those for free from work now too LOL

I didn't consider accuracy as much before since I was injecting larger quantities but since I started reconstituting with amounts such as 3mL BAC and injecting much smaller doses is when I noticed this
Allow me to break (no one’s) the rules. Sometimes I decant (filter) the peps into a cart, clear the air via the pen method, but the use it like a vial. I slap a label on that sucker and draw from it. I’ve never been one to inject air into a vial, btw.

Sometimes it takes 2 carts, say if I do it this way with ginseng. That comes in those awful glass vials you have to snap off.

I like to switch things up, syringes & vials, syringes & carts, carts & pens.
 
390120 said:
I usually use 3mL syringes because I get them for free but I recently used a 1mL syringe and realized how much product I'm losing after injection that is stuck in the barrel and needle of the syringe. Especially when reconstituting amounts such as 100mg of GHK-Cu with 3mL bac and injecting 0.1mL dosages.

Does anyone do this?

I might give it a try tonight with my injection
Never thought about losing product from injecting and it was an interesting read, but idk if doing all that would be worth it for the minimal save!
 
BNLFL said:
Same gauge 31, but 5/16"L. How much loss there. I use .05 and 1ml BD's.
5/8ths of 0.42 or 0.26u. Then depending on your concentration, translate to mg and $.

My T30 diluted at 3mL: 0.26u would be …. 3.3 cents of product. 💸💸💸
 
390120 said:
I used 3mL ones for TRT for years because I could get boxes of them, but I am using 1mL ones now because I can get those for free from work now too LOL

I didn't consider accuracy as much before since I was injecting larger quantities but since I started reconstituting with amounts such as 3mL BAC and injecting much smaller doses is when I noticed this

There are 30u syringes too, I use them for anything under 20u. Some will even have half unit marks.
 
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