These all seem to preserve muscle rather than build it. Preventing muscle atrophy is quite different from inducing muscle hypertrophy.timewalk said:any updates here? is any of this still worth looking into for gaining muscle, instead of traditional anabolic steroids? is any of this available on the gray market?

A lot of people combo it with creatine. I've noticed the same that people either swear by it or say it didn't work. But it is cheap and oral so nothing wrong with trying it.50ShadesGreyMarket said:What are your thoughts on HMB? I hear some folks swear by it but others insist it isn’t worth the cost.